Normally I would too, but it's tech. and I think you're pretty safe with that.I would be rather wary of an unbranded product like this.
A fair point, which is why I askedYou could get a branded one for a similar price - something like a Panasonic HD-TA2 which I would think would be considerably better and likely to last longer.
Here's some footage recorded on one from around a year ago. Doesn't look to bad to me. Assuming they're not lying or the company don't put their name on a higher-priced versionAlso consider the lack of information - records AVI but what type of AVI - what codec, what bit rate, how long does it record for? What sort of memory card does it use? Will you be able to do anything useful with the material?
Why would they record at 30fps when US TV uses 24 and UK TV uses 25? Seems a bit silly?It also doesn't mention frame rate. A lot of these cameras only record 30fps (the Panasonic model I mentioned included). May not be a problem depending on what you want to do with the footage but may be an issue if you want for example to stick something on a DVD to give to relatives.
Why would they record at 30fps when US TV uses 24 and UK TV uses 25? Seems a bit silly?
Really? Okay. My mistakeUS TV uses 30 (well actually 29.97) frames per second.
That's mainly it.It's absolutely fine if you just want to shoot and view material on a screen that shows at that rate. It won't speed up or slow anything down. For uploading to YouTube etc or playing on a PC again no issue.
The problem comes if you want to make for example a PAL DVD - then you have to do some sort of standards conversion which may well affect smoothness of motion. It's also an issue if you want to edit material mixing it with 25 fps material you may already have.
You are confusing NTSC (29.97fps) with Blu-ray which is 1080p24 (A world wide standard). Many HD TV's wont work at 24fps so the players use drop frame to increase the frame rate to 60fps.
Most of the cheap HD mini-camcorders record 30fps. If you wanted to burn content to DVD you would have to use 720 x 480 29.97fps rather than 720 x 576 25fps. Pretty well all DVD players will play back 720 x 480 29.97fps.
You are confusing NTSC (29.97fps) with Blu-ray which is 1080p24 (A world wide standard). Many HD TV's wont work at 24fps so the players use drop frame to increase the frame rate to 60fps.
Most of the cheap HD mini-camcorders record 30fps. If you wanted to burn content to DVD you would have to use 720 x 480 29.97fps rather than 720 x 576 25fps. Pretty well all DVD players will play back 720 x 480 29.97fps.
Graham, why not 25fps for DVD? I copy VHS directly to DVD and that is 25fps and has no problems or jerkiness.
I would be rather wary of an unbranded product like this.
I think you are experiencing the "change" from stills and video...
Good advice is always welcomeIf I may?.... you need to pan shots very slowly . . . . about half the speed you think is "ages" -the alternative is to spot something that's moving across and focus on that, keep it in the centre (or just off, so there is "room" for the person/car to move "into".
Yeah. Thanks for that. Perhaps I might keep this after allthe Pana 700 is pretty good . . . . discounts to £500 I think...
Of course My point was that if I'm going to have the same problem with any similarly-priced unit - and it looks like I might - then I may as well keep it and get used to how to use it.That would be impossible to answer as nobody has used all the available camcorders
Yes, I'm getting thatBut as 12harry has said you really need to slow down any movements such as panning...
So, more than a day then?Steady shot does a lot to help, but you still need a good handling technique with a camcorder, and this takes time & effort to learn.
Yes. That's what I was referring to early as "buildings bending". At least I know what it's technically called now! Also, looking at the link in your post gave me an idea... the Gorillapod tripod!!I know that CCD sensors are going out of fashion but looking that that footage I see the CMOS 'jelly' effect which I also get on a £600 HD SLR camera. S...L...O...W pans are the best way to get around this.
Next on the list. Thanks for the tips.Had a quick look at Yr vid - grief, no tripod . . . . if you don't have a stabaliser (and I doubt you get one at that price) then do use a decent tripod, with something like a fluid head. -Care some are not the real thing!
No. No moving parts.Colours look pretty good - stick with it, unless it rattles (no don't try).