Fuji XE-1

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  1. twist

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    So quite a few of us have this camera now and some really good information is scattered throughout other threads. May be a good idea to start posting here. :smashin:
     
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    Received one of these a couple days ago and thought I'd post my initial impressions.

    First thing that stands out is the level of attention paid to presentation. Kit box is very nice with spot uv images (expensive). 35mm packaging was even more impressive, outer sleeve has white lettering on black, inner box has embossed fuji logo and even has a magnetic latch, its very thick, foam cut inserts, lovely lens cloth, lenses and camera build quality are very impressive. Lenses more so. The big manufacturers could learn a few tricks here.

    I was on fw1.02 with the 18-55 and it was ime far better than the x100 with regards accuracy, it did hunt a bit but was pretty accurate, the x100 hunted and had a very poor hit rate. The 18-55 is VERY sharp wide open and nicely built, 35 has a nice old skool metal hood and is also very sharp wide open.

    I then updated to v2.0 fw, even better with the 'slower' focusing 35, it's totally usable and pretty close to the gx1 AF speed from a quick side by side, kills the x100 though IMO. I haven't had much time to play at all but when I used the x100 I was completely disappointed (twice), the xe1 is very promising so far and the 35 does a good job of focusing accurately in dimmer light.

    Jpegs are clean with good colour, need to try RAW. I should get a decent chance to test over the weekend then ill decide whether its finding a new home or not..... But for now its a keeper.

    I know this is a very garbled post but ill try fix it when I'm at a proper keyboard!
     
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  3. Pete Delaney

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    What I find quite exciting is the promise of such good image quality. The 18-55mm is a terrific small zoom but I must confess it makes me lust after the top Fuji primes.... Namely the 14mm, the 35mm and the upcoming 58mm lens. I just wonder how much better 'could it get' when it's already fabulous with the kit zoom?

    Build quality is top notch and the exposure compensation dial is perfectly placed. There's also a quick menu button, which gives access to a single page of features and settings that you may need in a hurry. It works well, combined with the menu pad and a small command dial.

    Before I bring the camera to my eye I also press the AF button. This brings all the focus points into view so that I can quickly 'scroll' to the desired position once my eye is at the viewfinder.

    I also like that 3 bracket shots are fired with a single shutter press. My old Nikon needed 3 shots to be individually taken with 3 hits of the button.

    No bad news yet as such.... for the price I've paid, like with all modern tech, I'm getting far more now than what I would have got just a few years ago....

    Very happy and keen to get out again soon to take more pictures!

    Pete.:)
     
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    I am really liking mine done all the update my fav lens so far 18-55mm,do i wait for the wide angle zoom coming soon or just go for the 14mm :laugh:
     
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    Im a prime person so Im biased. Could always buy the 14 used and you wont lose money come time to sell. The 18-55 is very good but Im used to fast apertures/shallow dof so its to slow for me.
     
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    I had a look a digtalrev have a very good price on the 14mm at the moment,very tempted.
    Had to cut down the kit i can carry,so before had the Nikon 14-24 & 24-70,carrying them both was just to much so the 14-24 just got left at home,so i was thinking of just getting the Nikon 20mm.

    So i don't want to be in the same problem as those the fuji zoom will be lighter.

    :)
     
  7. Pete Delaney

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    The 14mm is an extraordinary lens by all accounts. I'd love to have it and may well do so in the future.
     
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    Do you mean lighter than the prime? The 14 is only 234g.
     
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    +1, that and the new 56 1.2 would do very nicely.
     
  10. Pete Delaney

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    Yup, both are on my love to have list..... onestopdigital have good prices too. Got my V1 from those guys with no issues:)
     
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    No i was thinking that the Fuji zoom would be a lot lighter than the Nikon 14-24 so might be able to carry to zoom around now.
    But might just go for the 14mm and can leave it tucked away in my bag all the time :)
     
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    Another quick ? how are digtalrev or onestop on importing stuff will you have to paid customs or any other charges on top.

    The UK 14mm is quite a bit more money over here :)
     
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    Cant believe Im about to start buying into another system!

    DR ime are very good, fast delivery, good prices. No customs, if you do pay customs they refund them to you. Highly unlikely though.
     
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    Simonblue, youre a member on TP, contact Christy (digitalrevdeals) and she'll usually pricematch OSD with free priority shipping. Stuff takes about 3 days once orders placed to arrive.
     
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    If you are charged by customs, onestopdigital will refund. If I recall right delivery is free too. I didn't get any extra charges for my Nikon v1 when I bought it.
     
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    I think OSD charges for priority/express. Both are good companies.
     
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    Good to know... I've also used procamerashop, again without any hassle.:smashin: All 3 are similar in price but it's worth comparing for the best deal possible.

    Splashed out on a new camera bag yesterday too!!:p I think my missus will string me up soon. ..... no I'll be ok.... until I buy a prime lens or two!!!:eek::devil:
     
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    Twist - how do you find this in comparison to the D800 and a prime?
    Just interested in your experience having shot both. Thinking of a smaller compact system to compliment the larger kit for focused shooting
     
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    The d800 is a boss camera, just does everything well. This would compliment nicely but it does force you to slow down a bit. The OMD may be an easier adjustment but it depends on wether you want the fuji handling, build and larger sensor vs speed/video/ibis of the omd.

    Really tough call between the two but I went fuji as I've had a few m43 already, but not much in it and on a different day in a different mood would've bought the omd.

    More testing is required though, I'll update my initial impressions over the weekend.
     
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    I shall look forward to it!
    Not looking to replace the D800 in anyway as its amazing, and I've had so much fun to date with it, and take it everywhere but am interested in just how well the compact / M43 / OMD class perform. As well as the whole value for money debate
     
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    I can.... :p
     
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    :facepalm:
     
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    So had a bit of time last night with it, some pros and cons.

    Pros:
    • Build quality
    • Nice image quality, I leave it set to Provia. Less punch in the images but it makes a nice file to work with in LR
    • B&W conversions are fantastic
    • High ISO is very good for a CSC, noise looks pleasant at Hi ISO
    • MF is pretty easy, when things are in focus they shimmer at the edges
    • High quality EVF
    • AF-S is decent, surprisingly even in poor light
    • AWB is excellent, I always struggled with GX1 AWB, especially skin tones

    Cons:
    • Some EVF lag in low light/NEX6 has better refresh rate
    • Focus tracking is useless but none of the CSC cameras are very good
    • Contrast based AF isnt as fast or accurate as Phase but its not to bad, eg Id have more keepers with a 50 1.4 or 85 1.8 on a FF camera (even shallower DOF) than with the Fuji 35 but that could also be because I havent gotten used to the camera and its settings, time will tell

    Pro & Con:
    • Manual controls take time getting used to but will eventually get used to it, better than not having them

    I guess it is what it is, it wont replace my 5D until I can trust it to get enough keepers or until Fuji offers lenses that give shallow DOF but as a second system it works well.

    More practice required, hopefully the weathers decent this weekend.
     
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    Oh, whats really annoying you ask?

    The flash recycle time between shots is shocking, you have to wait for the red busy light to go out before the thing will even refocus!

    So basically, take 1! shot with flash........ camera thinks....... then you have to refocus once its done thinking....... then fire another. With other cameras you just shoot/focus etc the flash might not fire due to recycle but the camera still focuses and releases.

    If anyone knows a way around this without an external flash and trigger please tell me, I dont feel like reading the manual.
     
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    Test shots..

    35mm 1.4 wide open (its sharp, that bug is tiny @ 1:1 all legs etc are well defined)

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    18-55mm (excuse the dirty cat, he likes rolling on concrete{idiot})

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    C'mon Twist.... shoot a person....lets see the wide open shot on a subject. Would like to see if this lens has portrait potential.:thumbsup:

    Me thinks the 56mm is what I need to save for though...or perhaps the 60mm macro can do the job as a portrait lens whilst offering macro as an added bonus.:)
     
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    I can guarantee it does, it's what I mostly shoot, just don't post. Got some cracking shots already. The 56 will be better but I wasn't going to wait another 6 months and just use the kit lens, that's a lot of shots. It balances much nicer than the kit lens and looks the danglies.

    60mm is sloooooooow
     
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    Dang...I kept calling the 56 a 58 in other posts...dope..:facepalm:

    56 or 35, 35 or 56??? or both.....:devil::eek:

    For me useful tight portrait range and street camera portrait has to be nearer the equivalent of 100mm. I guess the 56mm is going to suit what I am used to. But the 35mm will be ok for some scenic stuff too....

    Sounds like both are worth having.... anyone lend me a tenner:laugh::rotfl:
     
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    Both, if I stick with fuji both would suit me, 50 & 85 equiv is perfect. 85 is to long for walking around with. Maybe add the 14mm.
     
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    If you go somewhere super dooper on holiday then the 14mm would be a must have....

    Thinking places like .... 'Monument Valley' .... as opposed to 'Skeggy':p
     

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