From Radeon VE to 8500 improvement in quality?

Stuart Wright

AVForums Founder
Staff member
I have a HCPC working just fine with a Radeon VE card and I find myself with a spare Sapphire 8500LE card after an upgrade in my main PC.
Would any of you happen to know if replacing the VE with the 8500 would produce any improvement in picture quality with the Theatretek player?
Thanks
 

Mr.D

Distinguished Member
Unsure. I have a VE also and seem to recall there being some discussion with regard to the inclusion of 10bit dacs on the output side of the VE as opposed to 8bit. The advantage being you get a bit more headroom (you wont clip) if you are doing hardware gamma corrections via the overlay. TT looks great on mine.

If the VE has 10bit dacs I'd say its unlikely to make a difference to your pic quality going to the 8500

I do a fairly hefty gamma correction on mine and it seems fine also you don't have to worry about an extra fan with the VE.
 
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jrwood

Guest
All ATI cards have 10bit dacs, what you may notice and others might not is that the 8500 should give a slightly crisper image, especially at higher resolutions thanks to its better/faster RAMDAC.

/James
 

Jeff

Distinguished Member
From my experience with various Radeon cards I would say yes. The 8500 is certainly better than the Radeon 64 DDR and the Radeon 7200 (both of which are supposed to be better than the VE/7000).
 

Mr.D

Distinguished Member
Originally posted by Jeff
From my experience with various Radeon cards I would say yes. The 8500 is certainly better than the Radeon 64 DDR and the Radeon 7200 (both of which are supposed to be better than the VE/7000).

Not on an ae100 though eh ?
;)
 
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Couch Potato

Guest
Spectre,

Why not try out your 9700 in your HCPC, you might not look back ;)

If you do, let us know the difference.

Steve
 
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Jenz

Guest
Personally when I slapped a 8500 in instead of a VE there wasn't much. But there was when I put a 9000 in.

I am currently awaiting the 9000 with filter mods ;)

Neil.
 

fatrich

Well-known Member
Neil
have u sent the 9000 off to Mark in Hull to be modified ? wot are the differences between your old Ve and the 9000 ?
cheers

richard
 
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Couch Potato

Guest
Originally posted by fatrich
Neil
have u sent the 9000 off to Mark in Hull to be modified ? wot are the differences between your old Ve and the 9000 ?
cheers

richard

Neil?

Also why the 9000 rather than the 9700?

Steve
 
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Jenz

Guest
Well the 9000 over the 9700 because this is a HTPC not a games rig - oh and £40 versus £275 :devil:

The differences were slightly cleaner, crisper image (using TT) and personally felt there were colour improvements slightly and better black. Didn't feel there was any white level benefits.

Mark hasn't modded it yet because I haven't sent it yet.

Neil.
 
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Jenz

Guest
OK I lied, its now £49 at ebuyer.com

Sapphire 9000 No-DVI 64Mb. The pic is not the actual card which does not have a fan, it has a heatsink.

I then also got the £55 DVI card also.

I use the catalyst 2.3 drivers.

I use TT in software mode when I use it, although I mainly use my Holo3D and Arcam DV27 now.

Neil.
 
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squishysdomain

Guest
Sorry I'm new here - what are these filter mods that have been mentioned on this thread, and does anyone have any experience of the quality of the Sapphire Radeon 9000 card with VI/VO? I want to get my skybox and video recorder output into the HCPC and out onto my LCD projector??
 

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