Many of you know this anyway but I thought I would point it out to those who wondered. I just read a group review in What Home Cinema of a number of hard drive DVD recorders, including the Panasonic DMR-EH60D. I have one of these and it struck me that the review didn't mention one of its features, which I think can be quite significant to people living in areas where they can't receive all Freeview channels, or people who aren't "into" making more than the standard connections between their TV and other equipment: this recorder can receive both analogue and Freeview channels via its tuner, without any alterations required in its setup. The tuner acts as one unit, so you can't do tricks like recording two channels at once (but almost all DVD/HDD recorders also have a single tuner anyway), but until the analogue transmitter switch-off it's a nice feature to have. This also applies to the DMR-ES20D, which is a DVD recorder without hard drive. As far as I am aware, in late September 2005 the Panasonics are the only Freeview DVD recorders with analogue reception also (the Sony RDR-HXD710 and 910 for example are Freeview only). Of course, there aren't actually many other Freeview DVD and DVD/HDD recorders yet anyway (though there are a fair number of Freeview HDD PVRs).