Question Found my speakers - what to drive them with?

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  1. martind1

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    Hi,

    New to the forum and I have a question about a new system I'm hoping to get.

    I'm a massive fan of KEF speakers but I've never owned any. Now I'm in the market to get a good quality sound system in the living room to be used for TV, movies and music. I'm not fussed about surround sound, I'd rather spend my budget on a good stereo system for now.

    I'm pretty much set on the KEF Q750 but I'm at a loss at what I should be using to drive them.

    My budget is £1,600 but can stretch a little bit for a better product. £1,100 will be taken with the speakers. So it leaves me £500~.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated :)

    Thanks
     
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    Hello,

    KEFs are a bit neutral speakers, they requires a ballsy amp to make them universal for movies and music or something more subtle for jazz listening sessions (for example) :) for 500 you can get NAD C356BEE from Amazon, it’s fast, powerfull sounding amp for most music genres and movies, but the build quality, well, it can be a kind of lottery. They are made in china. For better build quality and all-round sound quality I can recommend Arcam A19, it’s well built, sounds nice with most British made speakers.
     
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    I'm in full agreement with Rambles. The KEF R300s are a class act and are, apart from the depth of bass, superior in mids and highs to the Q750s. The R500s are superior in every way to the Q750s.

    How much room can you give your prospective speakers. Floorstanders by their very nature need to be brought out into the room for optimum performance. Small rooms will ultimately sound better with a quality standmount.
     
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    The speakers are going to relatively close to the back wall, so I'm not sure if the ported design of the R series will give me any benefit?
    They will be 10-15cm away from the wall.
     
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    Kef recommend the same distance from rear and side walls for both the Q and R series, that is 225mm from the back wall and 1 metre from the side wall. We don't all achieve that of course in our rooms, so compromise is necessary.

    Is there anywhere you could go and demo them?
     
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    Martin, it appears you live in Stockton on Tees not too far from Newcastle. Peter Tyson have a store on Kingston Park in Newcastle, you could always ring them and ask them if they have the R300 and R500 that you could listen to. As far as I know they appear to be the only dealer selling off the old Kef speakers. I was going to get the R300s but wanted stands, but adding the Kef stands made them more expensive than the R500s. I went for the latter even though they are probably not ideally suited to my study. Clearance from the rear wall is fine at 27cm but they are only 40 cm from the side walls, still sound pretty good to me and has been said compromises have to be made. They may work for you with the foam bungs in the rear port I guess. Alternative is find cheaper stands for the R300s or put them on a cupboard.
     
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    I have my R300s mounted on my cabinet. They are 25cm from the rear wall and I have them half ported using the bungs supplied by KEF. With this the Rega is able to control the bass extremely well giving a fast and detailed bass note. I'm not a bass head and just using the R300s is perfect for me.
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    Found a store near me (Hifi Sound) in Stockton and they are going to demo the Q750 for me.
    Looks like they have the R500's in too so if they are available to demo I'll compare them :)
     
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    Cool :smashin: Do report back with your thoughts.
     
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    Speakers stands are, as a rule, ridiculously over priced. And everyone does exactly the same job.

    The only difference is an aesthetic one.

    For anyone needing stands then these are as good as everything else and are not absurdly expensive.

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    They’re are more in the same shop, different colours and shades.
     
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    You might have to ask before hand for them to have both set up. But it’s worth taking the time.

    Not cheap and it’s a long term investment.
     
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    Someone has also recommended the Cambridge Audio SR20 to me.
    Looking at it it looks quite well featured with optical input (will be great for the TV).

    Anyone had any experience with it?
     
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    Rambles, I think your stands look good, but no way would you get them passed my Mrs! You cannot have walnut speakers on oak? stands she would tell you, totally unacceoptable! Now if you can change those stands to walnut you are in with a chance. However she would then be telling you to get rid of those gloss black things on top!;)
     
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    I agree. I reckon they should be dispatched to the gibbsy residence to sit alongside my oak cabinet as they do look rather nice. I can then send @Rambles the bill for knocking down the wall to accommodate them.:thumbsup:
     
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    Ha! They do make them in all wood finishes, I guess I am weird in liking the contrast of woods? I do agree with the black gloss, I would much prefer them to be a wooden finish also, but when I bought them it was that or gloss white. I dislike gloss white slightly more than I dislike gloss black :rolleyes:
     
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    Update on my situation.

    Went and demo'd the KEF Q550 and KEF Q750.
    They had the KEF R500 but they were £1,500, so out of my budget.

    I really liked the Q750's. I preferred them because I won't be having a sub (to start with anyway).
    The main thing was the fact that the wife liked them! So I bought them :laugh:

    I have also purchased a Cambridge Audi SR20 amplifier. Good output and I think a decent price at £350.

    Now just need to wait for the speakers to arrive :thumbsup:
     
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    Sound like the OP might have his amp, but have we locked down the Speakers yet?

    Peter Tyson actually has the KEF R700 on sale for £1200/pr, which is a bit more than you planned to spend, but it seems you saved a bit on the amp.

    https://petertyson.co.uk/kef-r700-floorstanding-speakers-16612

    Bass Units LF: 2 x 165mm (6.5in.) aluminium

    Frequency Range (-6dB): 37Hz - 45kHz

    Frequency Response (±3dB): 42Hz - 28kHz


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