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Football on your plasma, what do you think of the picture quality?

Discussion in 'Plasma TVs' started by Sicilian, Sep 29, 2004.

  1. Sicilian

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    Hi guys,

    I have a Hitachi 42DP5300. When ever I watch footy on it I get rather ****** off with it. If the camera is still the picture is ok, but when it moves the whole bloody pitch looks out of focus. Fast motion dvd's play fantastic so who does the football look ****.

    Whats the footy like on your plasma? Please tell me what yours is like & also state which plasma you have.

    TBH the longer I have this hitachi the more ****** off i'm getting with it. The slight buzzing is one thing, this crap picture during footy is another.

    Feel like boxing it up & sending it back, problem is i've had it for 3 months & its been changed once already.
     
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    Not too bad. I've seen a lot worse. Although it does vary between different games, i.e. which channel, the country hosting the game etc. Is your TV reception digital or analogue?
     
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    Use both Sky digital & cable digital. Dont matter if its on sky sport one or ITV. Still crap picture.
     
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    I use a 42pd5200 and picture looks great to be honest

    Im not much of a football fan though but from technical view there never seems to be any blurring etc
     
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    The whole pitch goes out of focus when the camera moves. Even the scores went out of focus tonight!
     
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    Was fine on what I was watching - no blurring - no smearing - no shadowing

    Yes I have seen better but as said above I have seen worse - certainly more than watchable and unless you really know what to look for you would be hard pushed to notice any faults
     
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    Hitachi 5300 here (& Sky +). I watch a lot of football and have NO complaints about the quality at all, it's at LEAST as good as the Panny 32 CRT I had before, but really much better. Not just my opinion either, my dad (who's a fusy bugger on PQ) has checked it out too!
     
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    I seem to have a bit of an issue with this too. It's when the camera is fast panning across the pitch is gets a little blury. It's the same if any text comes across the screen quickly too. I have a Panny TH-42PW6 connected to Sky+ through my S-Video lead. I was thinkingit was caused because I connected thru the S-Video lead though, although I could be wrong. :(
     
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    I've got a 5300 and watch a lot of football on it.

    On BBC and Sky Sports the picture is usually very good but, for some reason, on ITV, it's often really bad so I think the problem is down to the source rather than the screen itself.

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    i have an lcd, the sony l32mrx1. the pitch does go a little blurry when the camera pans, although this is much worse on foreign feeds than on uk source. it's also better on itv through freeview than on itv through sky

    my reckoning is part of the problem is that the 3D comb filter thinks that the subtle variations in the pitch colour is noise and so tries to filter it out, hence the blurring. on my sony nothing else blurs out, for instance playing burnout 3 on ps2 at full speed looks amazing.
     
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    Yeah, I forgot the ITV pic is sometimes a lot worse than the others :(
     
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    ma94jcg has a point that NR settings can have a big affect on PQ, especially on football where the grass either resembles pciture noise or compression artefacts which the plasma processing incorrectly tries to deal with. Football isn't gonna be perfect by any means (the broadcasters have made sure of that!) but if you are seeing your image that much worse than other Hitachi owners then it has to be worth fiddling around with those kind of settings to lessen the effect. And funnilly enough analogue images for football tend to look that bit better than cable/sky/freeview does...
     
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    Problem I think is that with the 5300 there isnt many settings that can be changed to adjust the picture. I think the 5200 has more settings. Reason I chose the 5300 was connectivity. IE the 5200 has only one scart socket.
     
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    I noticed the pitch blur during the MU game the other night (first time I had watched footy on my PW6) I needed to seriously alter the brightness, contrast and colour for the PW6 to cope. OK after that though..
     
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    Duncanwardle, is your pq fine watching football through sky sports too? Do you get a slowness on your picture when for example someone plays a longball during the game? If not how have you got your sky box connected to your pioneer? Have you altered any of the settings? (i.e. filters etc)
     
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    This is nothing to do with the display..either CRT or Plasma or LCD.

    It is an artefact of the compression techniques used in Digital TV transmissions.

    Adjustment of NR functions may help.
     
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    Yep, I thought football looked really bad on the Pio 434, with all kinds of artefacts. Then I watched a match on a friend's 32" CRT and realised that he was suffering from *all* the same issues. I decided NTL was the problem, not the plasma.

    Si
     
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    I think football or any fast moving sport is pretty bad on the plasma, it's much better on my Loewe aconda which is now relegated to the bedroom. As has been said before though Sky Sports is the worst offender, BBC1 was ok during Euro 2004, ITV is pretty poor. I actually watch a lot of sport and I knew before I got the plasma that the quality wouldn't be that good but it was worth it just to see my boyfriend moaning like hell about how poor the picture is, he does have the option of watching upstairs though!! :D

    As for films, no way would I go back to a tiny tv :thumbsup:
     
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    Which plasma, Tracey? If you don't mind me asking.
     
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    Pioneer PDP-434 : Football gash!

    I have TeleWest Digital, Sky Sports, ITV, Setanta, all rubbish.

    Better through analogue than the TeleWest box.

    OK if you use 1/2 the screen for the football and the other half for something else.

    Connected via RGB Scart through Media Receiver.
     
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    Is there anything that you can buy to improve the signal from or to the telewest box?
     
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    It's all about bit rates, the companies like Sky, TeleWest and Freeview prefer quantity rather than quality, after all UK-GOLD+1HR is deemed more important than chucking some extra bandwidth at the Sport's channels.

    Best output from TeleWest Digital is RGB Scart, as for input its just a standard co-axial RF feed.
     
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    You can add dedicated processing to your system, but even this isn't going to make a huge improvement to football (it makes a significant impact on other Sky channels though).
     
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    Have the same problem on my PW6, grass area was very poor watching Man U play also watching the F! on sunday i had the same poor quality when the in car camera was on viewing the track. I'm amased how different programs and channels give varying picture quality's.
    Haven't got sky yet till Monday and the next thing will be to get it calibrated by a professional.
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    What does the NR function do? Noise Reduction? I have the setting on my plasma but I'm not sure what the consequences are of each setting.
     
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    Just watched the Newcastle match on Channel 5 and the pic quality on my Hitachi (which normally does quite a good job with a crap signal) was awful.

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    I dont have a Pioneer - have an Hitachi 42pd5200

    Picture is great - although oes have its bad moments which I put down more to Sky then the TV as it seems to alter depending on who is showing the match and at what time

    No blurring - no smearing

    Sky+ box connected via a Thor Scart cable - check out seperate thread for my settings - also running Sky+ box on low contrast
     
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    pio 434 hde & sky+ via decent RGB = football fine for me obviously a bit less crisp than my sony 36" CRT but better than most systems ive seen.
     

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