First time purchase of gaming laptop.

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  1. m22blue

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    Hi lads (and lasses).

    I used to be a gamer back in the day (way before SSD's, 1080p and Gfx cards that could power the SS Enterprise). Hell the last online multiplayer i really got into was Unreal Tournament. Due to space (and more importantly financial constraints) i'm unable to blow my whole load, so i have two options....

    MSI GT72 6QD Dominator Pro G Inte®l Core™ i7 Processor, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb HDD & 128Gb SSD Storage, 17.3 inch G-Sync Laptop with nVidia Geforce GTX 970M Graphics - Black | very.co.uk

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    Alienware 17 Intel® Core™ i7 Processor, 8Gb RAM, 1Tb HDD & 256Gb SSD Storage, 17 inch Laptop with NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 970M 3Gb Graphics - Black | very.co.uk

    Obviously they're not the best money can buy and i don't want to be running every game i play on max settings (as much as i want to) i just want a machine that can handle 99% of what i throw at it.

    The optical drive of the MSI is a bonus (yeah i have and every day laptop to burn disc's etc) but it's not the be all and end all.

    I'm relatively new to the world of Steam and downloadable content etc but i'd imagine i'd get most of my games from there as im on 100mb fibre optic so bandwidth isn't a problem.

    Just wondering what you guys reckon?

    A desktop is a no go as i have 3 kids and there just isn't any space for one.

    Any input would be much appreciated.

    Thanking You.
     
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    Cheers mate. Only really got those two options as it'd have to be bought on finance. Which do you reckon?
     
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    just been told on another forum that either of those would only run games on either medium to low graphics settings.
     
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    Can understand wanting to get from very but a lot of pc parts sites do finance aswell overclockers included like i linked to i think aswell as scan.
    Might be worth having a look?
    If was one of ur 2 id have the MSI personally.
     
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    If you need to get it on finance, have you considered an interest free credit card? I've just got one from First Direct with interest free for 17 months.
     
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    I'm a bit cautious of getting a credit card tbh, i've just checked Overclockers UK (completely forgot about those guys from back in the day) They even do upto 48 months finance so what would you guys suggest? Obv dont wanna be taking the pee (no more than £60 a month) the Mrs would kill me, anything better than what i originally listed would be great.
     
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    an interest free credit card is far better than finance, unless it's also 0%. Not only are you reducing your monthly payment (remember; still set the money aside per month and you can even earn interest on this yourself), but you're also opening up buying options so that you can save money on the original purchase price.
     
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    You know you can build really small gaming PC's that are practically more space economical than a laptop. You can then use it like a console directly under the TV or simply have a screen somewhere.

    It is not like you can use one of these laptops comfortably on your lap, not unless you install some coolers in your underpants. You still need to have it on a desk somewhere. Nor can you use them without powersupply, normally battery life is about an 1 hour max.

    If you looked at a mini PC build, you would get a lot more bang for buck. Gaming laptops are really only useful if you really need the portability, like if you are travelling a lot or playing at friends.
     
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    I use a 17" laptop and could never use it direct on my lap for any length of time so I use a beanbag tray and it's fine with that and solved the issue :)
     
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    I guess it depends what games you are playing, seems a little uncomfortable for playing with a controller or Mouse/Keyboard.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, it wouldn't replace a table for keyboard\mouse but for pad games its fine (well for me) I should have made that clear in the original reply.
     
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    One benefit of the Alienware is when it starts to get out of date GPU wise you can buy a graphics amplifier and use a desktop grade card. So in effect you can upgrade the graphics card.

    Have a look at the Dell outlet for much cheaper prices on items that have been returned under DSR (or whatever Distance Selling Regulations are called now). You'll have to look multiple times per day and be ready to buy when you see the real bargains. There's pretty much always stock, but every so often some better than normal bargains filter through.

    Just a moment ago there was an Alienware 17 R3 with 4K screen, 16GB RAM, 4,1Ghz i7 processor, 1TB HDD & 512GB SSD and a GTX 980M 8GB card for 1237 inc VAT with a 10% discount code. That's over £2k new.

    All Alienware laptops in the outlet have 10% off and free delivery using the discount code W3NJWFZ3$21MG$ which is on the Dell outlet page which is until the end of the month.

    EDIT - Unsurprisingly it's gone now, you've gotta be quick.

    2nd EDIT - All the 17 R3's are now gone, only Alienware 17's, which are an older model, are left now. Ditto if there's any 18's.
    If you want the most current it must be a 17 R3.
     
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    While Im not great with Laptops, Scan has a decent selection by the looks of it and if your thinking of financing, their APR on finance is pretty low in comparison.
     
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    This might be an option for you. base price is $899.00
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    T. Yates
     
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    That's nearly a thousand more than the Alienware ones I saw on the Dell outlet with the same spec and some had a better spec screen.
     
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    Hi mate, i'm wanting to get it on Finance you see and i'm not sure they do it on the Dell Outlet. Even prices as little as £800 just aren't financially viable. Just after a decent machine with a GTX980 preferably. There are plenty of GTX 980M machines within my budget but i keep being told that i should be going for one with the GTX 980 inside.
     
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    I'll be wanting to play games like Battlefield/Far Cry/Crysis 3 but also want it to be able to handle games for the next few years on their higher settings if you know what I mean.
     
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    Ah, they have a desktop card in them. IMO laptops have cooling issues, stick a desktop card in one and you're asking for more trouble, one of the reasons I like the Alienware is the external graphics amplifier but that's more money, although you don't need it now.

    Why finance?
    Get a low intro rate credit card instead or even a 0% one.

    Not sure if I'd want to finance a depreciating luxury item TBH.By the time you've paid it off it's worth next to nothing.
    I'd rather spend the money on a PC as at least you can upgrade it and sell parts as they need to be done.
    Also bear in mind it's a 17" screen so you don't necessarily need it running @1080p at max settings.
     
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    Here is a link for a (link removed) that has a GTX980.

    T.Yates
     
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    He's not in the USA.

    Let me guess you work for Computer Upgrade King?
     
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    Yes, but what does that matter? M22Blue asked for help regarding his choices and desire to find a laptop that uses a GTX980 and stated that the only ones he could find were over $2500. All I did was point to a MSI Dominator laptop that listed for $2099. If I knew of somewhere else that listed it for less I'd post it but I don't. Also, the laptop as reviewed by notebookcheck.com states its a great product. They also give the benchmarks for some games used with it as well.

    So don't take my word for it, read their review yourself and if you know where they can buy it for less or an alternative that uses a GTX980, post it. But it seems you're an Alienware fan, of which are also great laptops, but a little heavy on price.

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    Moderator comment - I think the fact is that you are affiliated with that website you link to (which is not allowed unless you are a forum sponsor and even then under conditions), as well as being in a different country. I have removed your previous links.
     
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    Hello. Thought id mention pcspecialist.co.uk as I got my 980m gaming laptop from there about 18 months ago. They were the cheapest site at the time and still look pretty cheap - full 980 laptop starts at £1700 but you can customise it. It'd be worth customising to the same spec as that scan one and see what price it comes out as. The only downside I found with the 980m is that VR wont work on it due to the way the 980m works with the integrated Intel GPU. Other than that it performs very well, never had to go lower than max settings at 1080p as long as I leave super sampling off or low.

    Also sadly they turned me down for finance and I made a last ditch effort to get a bank loan to buy one (don't judge me!) and that got accepted and was a better rate so I was happy :)
     
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    I checked out PC Specialist. While their prices do seem cheaper their interest % is a lot higher that other sites like SCAN Computers which ends up making them more expensive. I've just knocked up this system on SCAN. What do you guys reckon? It's housing two 980m's in SLi (similar to the MSI GT80s Titan. Image1462447193.065941.jpg
     
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    I think it's a silly amount of money to pay for a laptop.
     
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