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First Glimpse Of XBOX 2

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  1. Miyazaki

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    vastly overated firgure i'm sure but never the less it will be an impressive peice of kit
     
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    Sony are claiming their PS3 will do 16 billion. I think that is over-rated. 1 Billion is achievable IMO.
     
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    haha, they said the PS2 would do 66 million Polys/sec, jokers
     
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    j allard

    he looks like a healthy michael stipe (R.E.M frontman)

    :D
     
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    Sounds impressive - can't wait until this beast comes out. I do get a sense that this next generation of consoles could see a significant step forward in terms of technology, probably in a similar way to the 16 & 32 bit era's did.

    Whilst the console should have hi-def ability I think that they will have to make it so that it's not just via HDMI or DVI connection. Far too many people still won't have Hi Def by then and of the ones that do a lot of them will still use an analogue based method of connectivity (such as Component video as is used now). I can't see XB2 limiting output to just those who are capable of displaying digital HD as if people need to go out & buy a £3k+ screen or a £1k+ projecter to use it, then it makes the console a rather expensive purchase.
     
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    Revolution is said have a few ways of connecting to a display, so I'd have thought XBox2 & PS3 would too, here's hoping for component connections all round :)
     
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    with sony, i`d say 100% an optional extra, like a plug in adaptor of some sort, maybe MS will provide as standard. seems more and more info is being released everyday about this console
     
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    Hopefully they will have built in Digital & Analogue outputs like a video card. Digital connectivity would be good as I see myself getting a HDMI/DVI projector in the next year or two.
     
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    MS have asked developers to target 1280x720p resolution for games. They have also asked that content can be readily adapted for people that still use 4:3 TV's.

    The trillions of ops numbers floating around are probably including all of the fixed hardware functions in the graphics chips of these new console.

    The PS3 if it features 1 Cell processor at 4GHz will manage 256GFlops, not exactly 16 trillion eh?

    Let's cut through the tech hype and hope the development tools are up to scratch because these multi core machines will be difficult to work with.
     
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    im sure those extra billions worth of calculations will really benefit Fifa 2006,2007,2008, ;)
     
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    The Next Gen Live interface is looking pretty good though
     
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    Well they might be able to produce a game that is vaguely like a game of football, but as for Pro Evo on a next-gen console, well.........NURSE!!!
     
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    Yes imagine a world of Pro Evo 6 on the X-Box - the perfect live system, no lag, online leagues & tourneys, graphics indistinguishable from real life, full and correct licenses & names, huge accurate sound files for chants etc. and an even more perfectly refined control system!

    I reckon that we're looking at 2006 for that but it should be an amazing game! Konami will have ironed out most of the problems experienced with online play by PES5 and we should be in for a right treat when PES6 comes out!
     
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    Technical specs in the end are meaningles to everyone except developers. What I want to see is what Nintedo always deliver.
    Immersive games that make me "forget" that im playing a game.

    Lets hope that the quote of "not raw power but bruce lee" is true.
    More focus on game play and detail, less focus on graphics.
    I mean, cmon, most of the best selling games of the last 2 or 3 years have ALL been sequels that only offer nicer graphics, and an "extension" of the original game concept.
    Look at GT4 on the PS2 as an excelent example of this.
     
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    That's PES all over for me! I know what you are saying & agree with it to a large extent. I don't think that all sequels can be put into the same pot though. The game that I ALWAYS look forward to the most (since ISS Pro Evo Soccer on the PS1) is the next installment of PES! Each one has made substantial improvements over the last for me and IMO it's possibly the best game ever made.

    Gameplay will always be king but the graphics in a game are often more than responsible for the immersiveness of the experience and the closer they get to reality the easier it is to forget that you are playing a game. Resident Evil 4 is a good example of this. Essentially it's just another romp about, shoot people & solve puzzles type of game, but the graphics are amazing in it and the world that the game is set in is just so believable! The graphics go a long way to making that game the experience that it is IMO.
     
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    No blue ray or HD DVD drive, just a standard DVD drive. DO people see this as a problem?? Should cut back on costs and make it come in at £200 or less.

    As far as the outputs will go I think it will be 720p on all games and obviosuly the console will output this via component and HDMI/DVI, they would be mad not to support all three outputs.

    Out in November, I'm buying one.
     
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    I feel November is a bit optimistic, but they do need to beat sony to market. Otherwise they will never capture it.
    Im sure Sony will do some of their own unveiling at E3.
     
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    I feel Sony will loose a lot of ground in the next generation with the XBOX2, maybe a lot more when we see what Nintendo will come up with, roll on E3
     
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    For anyone that's missed it, check out the Live interface v2 here. Me likey!

    UPDATE: Video now on that link. User interface shown about 37 mins in.
     
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    Can anyone say keeeeeeerrrrrrrrching!
     
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    Maybe but it does say the 'gaming community' can sell as well so you could sell your suped up racing car on the market place and make a bit of cash. Just wait till some big online multi player RPG's come out - forget trying to sell 'sword of light +99' on ebay sell it on the xbox 2 marketplace.
     
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    I would certainly not envy anyone who had to buy a car with real money so it looked like they were any good at the game. That would be S A D.

    What I do like about the new interface though is

    - the star rating for your feedback from those that play against you
    - the achievements window, so you can see properly how good someone is at a game (hope they include offline achievements, like iamtheone could have a Platinum challenge completed sticker!)
    - a cumulative points total for all games
    - compulsory in-game soundtracks and Live awareness for ALL titles
    - hi-def (hope HDMI is included - I've needed to use that input on my plasma for something!).
     
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    indeed - it's pathetic when people actually pay for gaming items with real world money! Surely the point of the games are to PLAY them, or am I missing something??

    The interface looks great though! :thumbsup: It looks like this will be one hell of an online community. Live 1 was good but I guess it was just the prototype!
     
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    Oh, and did you notice that the first user interface symbol thing that came up was a picture of a joypad and a low battery alert? A hint at wireless joypads as standard? :thumbsup:
     
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    A nice progression of the LIVE interface, not sure I want to be playing some granny at Pro Evo who has just spent her weekly pension money on a new top striker though!!!

    I will definitely be keeping with the Xbox brand in the next generation, I always say I won't go back to Sony but they do know how to sell a product, but they must be hanging onto MGS and GT games for their dear life I would have thought. The Xbox 2 has so much potential, especially if they can actually utilize Rare and finally get Perfect Dark 2 out the door for release, along with Halo 3, PGR 3, Pro Evo 5(Xbox 2 'Gold' Smooth LIVE Edition), I'd even cue for that!!

    I don't think they should rush it out for a Christmas release though, I totally understand that developers are able to knock games out pretty fast because of the PC, Direct X etc... setup, but this year is too soon in my opinion. Sega rushed out the Saturn, and the Dreamcast, both were great consoles, but Sony calmly brought theirs out after and killed them off. Then you have Nintendo who leave it too long to release their machines, and are too far behind to catch up!!! I don't know the winning formula, I just don't think it is this Christmas.

    Giz
     
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    I think that M$ will go for the November release to be honest. If a company the size of M$ wants to release in November then you can bet your bottom dollar they will be able to. I personally think that they need to steel a lead on Sony and the X-Box is a completely different prospect to Sega's last 2 machines.
     
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    Only problem with the star rating is idiots giving you bad feedback and of course you getting all your mates to give you good feedback - not very reliable.
    As for the Achievements window - a bit pointless really as it will just be used like the stats on games are at the moment - 75% of stats on xbox live games are faked, cheated with many glitches eg the clone stat glitch etc. Action reply saves etc. You just wont know who is actually good and who isnt like now.
     
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    Fair points Captain, but I'd say that it will probably be hard or be less important to you for those with poor quality feedback to leave poor quality feedback for others, IYSWIM. In my experience, the minority of Live players are wa:censored:rs, and so not many will leave negative feedback that is undeserved. I've always wondered if anyone has ever left me feedback...

    And I know what you mean about the achievements too, but its a nice touch to be able to see what people on your Friends list have done in games so far, and what they play for how long. Those on my Friends list do not cheat, plus I'd very much doubt you could claim achievements through Action Replay saves?
     
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    I wonder if we'll be able to use our existing xbox live account's with the xbox 2 as well as with the xbox??

    Also backwards compatibility would be nice with live support if not

    tris
     

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