First Doctor Strange Trailer Arrives

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    1. Steve Withers

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      Im very interested in this, as i think it opens up quite a lot of possibilities for the MCU to incorporate the different earths from the comic universe.
       
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      I'm looking forward to this. I really love the MCU, but...

      I think there are a couple of issues. Firstly it's becoming a bit too over-burdened. Too many main characters already. The two Avengers films had to spend too much time trying to juggle all the main characters, and ended up being just the right side of over-long. Introduce any more and it's going to become a real issue.

      Secondly, as new characters arrive, we're going to be left increasingly in situations where audiences will ask "Where was Spider-man while all this was happening?"

      The next film, Captain America: Civil War, if there's a point where audiences ask "Where's The Hulk? Which side is he on?", then it's all down hill from there.

      And having someone who could just 'magic away' a large number of the issues we've seen in the first films simply means they won't be able to repeat that type of story in the future.

      I think there's already a problem brewing with the MCU as it is now and X-Men. There's no feasible way the two stories could have been happening in the same universe. And any attempt to talk about parallel universes which suddenly inter-connect isn't going to work with a large proportion of the audience which the films are aimed at. But Marvel is going to want to bring them together.

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      Appreciate that Movie is a different medium, but all those problems are inherent in the Comic Books too, and arguably every one gets over it, and appreciates the format and storytelling over the obvious "but in the real world this doesn't make sense ..." type observations.
       
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      Re: "will be interesting to see how Marvel manage to mix magic into a universe that also includes scientists", I think you could argue that this already happens, since Thor inhabits a magical universe and his hammer is a magical object.

      @Pecker I would argue that many of the super hero characters in the MCU are fairly conflicted as people and this is a big plot driver (indeed Jessica Jones was built around it). Hulk / Banner always has been. He is always going off on his own trying to deal with his issues and is often being asked to return to the fold. He might well not show up for every crisis, and is unlikely to take a side in the war.

      The X-Men issue is interesting. As Agents of Shield showed, there are multiple government agencies with different levels of engagement with different super heroes / humans with alien genes. Obviously the X-Men have a lot of interaction with government but they're trying to stay somewhat undercover. And in the comics, "For the most part, the X-Men are considered a "rogue" group. They operate outside the law and generally eschew outside authority (X-Factor being the exception to this). As such, most mutants - and especially X-Men, would have little interest in joining up with what is effectively a government controlled military group."

      So the more public the Avengers and SHIELD get, the more incentive there is for the X-Men to stay away.

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      It's not so much a question as to whether they join in or stay away.

      It's more of a question of, when Loki brings an army of mutant warriors from outer space, and the Avengers fight to save our planet, and the future existence of mankind, what are the X-Men doing? On holiday? The idea that they'd not join in the fight to save the entire human race is not really credible.

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      Why would the X-men be involved? They're in another universe. Fox is doing its own thing with them quite competently, and unless they severely drop the ball with X-Men Apocalypse or Deadpool 2, they'll probably retain the rights to those characters for the foreseeable future.
       
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      Deadpool alluded to some bridging of the world's. Or did I imagine that final fight was on a Helicarrier. Oh and Hydra Bob. But he can get away with it because, you know, Deadpool logic.
       
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      I took that as a bit of a friendly jibe against the rival studio (the helicarrier is a rusty old wreck in a junkyard) rather than an acknowledgement of a shared universe. Plus lets face it, the 'world' of Deadpool is one in which both Wolverine and Hugh Jackman co-exist. Pretty much anything goes :).
       

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