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First car....Help please! General comments welcome !

Discussion in 'Motoring' started by mcfarfs, Jul 24, 2005.

  1. mcfarfs

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    Hi, I am looking to purchase my first car at the moment :thumbsup: .

    I quite like the Seat Ibiza, and there are a few around the £1500 price mark I have my eye on, both on Autotrader and Ebay.

    However, they seem to be in rather uninteresting colours, and whilst I wouldn't want a totally pikeyfied car, I would love to have one in jet black. I think it would look ace with a nice set of alloys!

    So, if I were to get one, any ideas on how much it costs to have it resprayed to black?

    General comments on cars welcome, as are driving tips! :cool: :)
     
  2. hornydragon

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    a good respray will cost you more than the car so buy the colour you want, buying a car is a minefield be careful and as your 17 insurance is the killer when i was 18 £1800 for a diesel ASTRA!!!!!!!! Corsa are good for insurance and a black SXi is easy to find consider something cheaper you wont mind bending and scraping as you learn and build NCD...............
     
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    I have been told never to buy a Vauxhall, Ford or French car, as they tend to be unreliable.

    German and Japanese are the best cars to get in terms of reliability.

    I did some research before I bought myself a car, and it turned out that, for me at least, either a VW Golf or a Honda Civic is the way to go.

    I go a Honda civic as they are supposed to be about the most reliable car there is, and the VTEC engine is just about indestructible.
     
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    Both a VW Golf or a Honda Civic will be hideously expensive on the insurance since he is young. I was recently looking at 2nd hand cars and quotes for them were in the region of £900 - £1200. I ended up getting an Astra and insurance was very much lower. Cant remember off hand but it was about £600 3rd party F&F.

    My Astra was abit pinkish when I first looked at it. They T-cut it, and polished it. Its now red red.

    I found Churchhill and www.endsleigh.co.uk to have the best quotes for me. Endsleigh came with windscreen cover as well.

    Good luck. :rolleyes:

    ;)
     
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    I would tend to always favour Japanese cars as well because of their reliability : Toyota Yaris, Mazda or Honda Civic. Never seen a black one though.But for sheere elan/panache a mark 1 Golf Gti if you can find one,
     
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    If this is so, & you've passed your test, it may be worth taking the 'Pass Plus' course. Certain insurance companies give good discounts for drivers who have done the course. Some give a discount of 10% - 25%. Two of my pupils (young lads) had quotes of £1200 reduced to £600 & £800. Worth the (then) £100 cost of course :thumbsup:
     
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    seen black civics and yaris just pray it doesnt go wrong as much more for parts than Ford Vauxhall etc and insurance is higher a big consideration......
     
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    Cheers guys, the thing is all these cars are $$$$$$$! Well for one that is newer than 1995, anyway. That is why I quite like the Ibiza, because it is not too expensive. And also as Seat are owned by VW, apparantly they are the same sort of quality.

    Still, I have to keep an open mind RE which car to get.

    I have £1200 in the bank at the moment, and should get another £400 on friday. I should probably wait a bit before getting a car, I have only had one driving lesson!

    Quite an exciting time for me though :) :smashin:
     
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    well thats perfect mate £400 for the car £1200 should just cover insurance (having had a car from 18) it is a very very expensive way of life mate being able to borrow a car as required is a much better option I almost died today at tesco 92.9 for a litre of Diesel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UTTER madness! :eek:
     
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    My insurance on my civic was £900 :eek:

    going into my second year of driving it is around £400, as I haven't had any accidents as yet! (touch wood).

    If you buy cheap you buy twice, so go for a good car and it will last you.
     
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    confused.com is a good place to look at for car insurance. It compiles them all for you.
     
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    On the flip side - buy something dirt cheap to see you thru' the first 12 months. If you then are unfortunate (or careless ;) ), to suffer the odd minor bump, gateposts, low walls in car parks etc. typical of new drivers, you wont be too bothered & wont be paying out for repairs or having to make insurance claims. You may not be bothered about a dent or two in a £100 banger, but your £1500 pride & joy :rolleyes:
     
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    my thoughts exactly in first 12 months i argued with another car (very odd one that) a gate post and another car (was hit by both) first time other driver legged it too shaken to get reg number 2nd one was hit by an old duffer while trying to pull out of a roadsie parking space i stop where i was he just plowed into me!!!!! nthing came of it fromeither side........
     
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    I only ever buy old bangers anyway . The one I have now cost me £200 , I have had it four years with no problems.Spares are dear but you can often get factor spares which are cheaper or go to thew breakers yard. In four years its been hit twice so I cant see the point in getting anything flash. Mind you cars have never been a source of pride for me.Just get me from a to b safely thats all.
     
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    This is a brilliant bit of advice which I wish I had had when I bought my first car.

    If you are mechanically minded go for something a little more classy(instead of the usual chav-mobile of most young drivers) like MKII Escort or something else from the 70's/80's. Also if you go for the right car you could insure it as a classic and get cheaper also if it's old enough road tax exemption.
     
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    and you can also just go for 3rd party insurance then as yours is basically disposable!
     
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    i actually fond fully comp was cheaper as a the kevs have 3rd party F & T and rack up claims.........for first two years it was £100+ cheaper
     
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    old SAABs are great, as are some other more luxurious old motors Volvo etc
     
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    Mcfarfs, a few things to consider:

    Do you actually need a car just yet?
    I've managed just fine for the last 5 years without my own although I have been fortunate to be insured on my Mums Pug 106 and more recently my Dads Vectra. At Uni there certainly wasn't any need for me to own a car.

    If you do need one then wait for the right one. You still have a fair bit of time before you pass your test so make the most of your instructors car.

    Don't spend too much. Although I've fortunately been accident free (from my own driving) thus far; virtually all of my friends have either written off or seriously damaged their cars in their first few years of driving.
     
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    That is very true I suppose.

    I live in a very rural location, so most of the time I drive down single track lanes with low visibility, blind corners etc and people absolutely fly down them, but as yet i've been fine. :D
     
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    The reliability or otherwise of a brand tends to be less of a factor when getting to the age that puts it in the price range of the OP as they will all be well past the first flush of youth.

    You will be able to buy a newer Vauxhall or Ford than a Honda or Volkswagen for the same money due to the perception of reliability that the German and Japanese cars have and also if and when they do break down, the cost of parts should be signficantly cheaper for the UK cars.

    I don't know how important image is to the OP but the Honda Civic is the favoured car of the over seventies anyway
     
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    I'd stick to Ford or Vauxhall, as the parts are really cheap. Although, a Seat won't be a bad buy either.

    French and Japanese cars tend to have very expensive spares, which in turn means the insurance is higher.

    If you get something older (Morris Minor, original Mini etc) the parts will be ludicrously cheap, and insurance should also be reasonable. Also, you'll learn to drive properly, without relying on electronic devices!
     
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    My first car (once I'd past my test) was from the scrappy, drove it like a rental and never had to worry about bits going wrong.

    I buy a scrappy crappy once every 6 months to a year, most that I've owned are still out there on the roads. The only things to go wrong so far are a starter motor, battery and exhausts.

    Unfortunately, society pressures the young and innocent into thinking new is best when there are millions of cheap and cheerfull motors floating around for as little as £95 with MOT and tax...
     
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    Have you got that Merc started yet, then?? :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    No, the *********** thing still wont ************ start despite me ********* and ********** with a ************* while *********** it with a donkey.

    I've exhausted the supply of crap cars round my way too so I'm having to cycle everywhere
     
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    get a Chevette!
     
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    That was the first car I was in that rolled. Twice, before coming to rest on it's roof. I hasten to add that I have yet to roll a car, both times I was a passenger.

    The second time was a Fiat Cinq.
     
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    I have been without a car now for over 6 months due to a series of poor car buying decisions. I can not stress enough the importance that you get a mechanic to look over the car before you buy.

    I bought a car for £500 that lasted only 6 months then 1 for £1500 that only lasted a year as well as having £800 spent on it. Then out of desperation to get to work I bought a VW Golf for £130 (cause they last for ever!!) Yeah right that lasted 3 weeks! :rolleyes:

    Since then Ive been on my bike or the bus and I ****ing hate it. Public transport what a joke! :mad:

    I am not trying to talk you out of a buying a car cause you will love it. just urging caution.

    Saving a few grand together before I buy anything again
    Best of Luck with the car hunt. :)
     
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    maybe next time buy a car with a service history
     
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    For a first car you need to be sensible. Many of the suggestions here are fine but hardly what you are looking for.
    Basically a good 5-7 year old vauxhall or ford will do the trick, but make sure you fully inspect any car you look at. The plus points of these two makes are that they are cheap to run, cheap to insure and dont go wrong as often as many people think. I would stay away from the likes of Honda, Toyota or the likes because they do cost more to run and repair and are just as likely to fail as a vauxhall or ford, plus they will cost you more on insurance, approximately 20% on parts over the Vaux/Ford.
    Good cars to look at are also 10-20 year ols Minis, i used to own one a while back when i first started driving and it was the mini that taught me about car control. They will take serious punishment yet are great fun to drive and you will learn thet car control, he he.
    Insurance for a corsa 1 litre & 7 year old for a 17yr old with no claims comes in at about £600-900 if you shop about, always best to insure your own car and don't get your parents to do it, first off thats actually illegal and secondly you build your own no claims. I started off at 17, i have had two accidents both within the first two years and a clean license. My insurance has never been more than £600 and is now only £250 fully comp on a Vectra SRi 140 (I'm 31 with 11 years ncb). Be sensible with that first car and it will pay off in the long run. After your first year change up to fully comp insurance, it will cost about the same as your first years premium but is well worth it and take the protection option if available.
    Stay away from anything too flash over your first two - three years, practical and cheap is what you want. Oh and good luck and take it easy, you are in the danger group as soon as you hit the road, enjoy driving but dont push it otherwise you will be found out, it takes at least 4 years to build your experience level to that of an adequate driver who will anticipate the road and what others can do to cause you problems. Good luck!
     

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