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Eijin

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I’m about to purchase this bundle Denon AVC-X6700H Black 11.2 Channel AV Receiver + Monitor Audio Silver 300 AV12 Gloss Black 5.1 Speaker Package Bundle - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists I’m totally green about home cinema and theatre I just want good quality surround system,then I have been advised that all I need is better quality speaker cables so decided to get these QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Cable - Price Per Metre - Speaker Cables - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

now I want to add banana plugs to each… and there are options,amplifier termination and speaker termination and I’m totally lost 😞 what these mean . You can add for each or one separately? Please enlighten me.
 

gibbsy

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Banana plugs can be used at both ends, ie, amp and the speaker. Termination means that they will be terminated at both ends. A dealer, or manufacturer termination can often be better than attempting it yourself but adds quite considerably to the cost. You could just buy the cable and them fit banana plugs to the amp end and bare wire to the speaker. Easy enough to do. I use the banana plugs below.

If your buying well over £3K equipment from AV I'd be asking for a very good deal on unterminated cable and some banana plugs. If you don't ask, you don't get.

Personally I'd buy Van Damme Blue at around £2.50-£3.00 per metre and use Fisual banana plugs. Cable is cable, nothing magic and it's won't make a difference to audio quality as long as the diameter is enough for long runs and it's oxygen free construction. There's a lot of snake oil around speaker cables.


 

Gasp3621

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I’m about to purchase this bundle Denon AVC-X6700H Black 11.2 Channel AV Receiver + Monitor Audio Silver 300 AV12 Gloss Black 5.1 Speaker Package Bundle - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists I’m totally green about home cinema and theatre I just want good quality surround system,then I have been advised that all I need is better quality speaker cables so decided to get these QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Cable - Price Per Metre - Speaker Cables - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists

now I want to add banana plugs to each… and there are options,amplifier termination and speaker termination and I’m totally lost 😞 what these mean . You can add for each or one separately? Please enlighten me.

If you want to buy everything from AVO then change the cable to this one, you save good amount. Then just add the banana plugs Gibbsy linked for you and install them yourself after you have cut each wire. Youtube has zillion videos showing how it`s done. You need 4 plugs per cable/channel (amp and speaker side). Don´t fall in to market mens stories about how airy and delicous it sounds with these Silver coated cables which has the latest space technology used by Nasa. Spend 2,5£/meter max. Fisual is basic Oxygen Free Copper wire with 2,5mm2 thickness so it`s fine for longer runs aswell.

As you are spending so much and likely you want to be blown away with latest blockbuster movies swap the subwoofer something from SVS as AVO sells them for good prices. If there is warehouse deal in the site, join v.i.p and you get -10% further discount. But you need to talk with the guys there. The package woofers are small, wife friendly but performance vs. price doesn`t really match up. Also you have shorter amp warranty. So to get your moneys worth choose one from company that specialized making them. There is no matching requirement either. SVS has certain models in black ash, gloss black and gloss white. The models are priced from 550£ to 3000£ which you would be looking. I It would be terrible that you spend 5k£ and don`t get what you have been dreaming of. AVO like any dealer will change the package subwoofer out when asked. It´s not worth the 1k£.

If you are intrested of SVS tell us your room size with possible openings and is it detached house or apartment with neighbours? I`m trying to figure out are you after real cinema volume levels or more moderate.

Does it need to be gloss black and do you have size restrictions?


 

Eijin

Active Member
If you want to buy everything from AVO then change the cable to this one, you save good amount. Then just add the banana plugs Gibbsy linked for you and install them yourself after you have cut each wire. Youtube has zillion videos showing how it`s done. You need 4 plugs per cable/channel (amp and speaker side). Don´t fall in to market mens stories about how airy and delicous it sounds with these Silver coated cables which has the latest space technology used by Nasa. Spend 2,5£/meter max. Fisual is basic Oxygen Free Copper wire with 2,5mm2 thickness so it`s fine for longer runs aswell.

As you are spending so much and likely you want to be blown away with latest blockbuster movies swap the subwoofer something from SVS as AVO sells them for good prices. If there is warehouse deal in the site, join v.i.p and you get -10% further discount. But you need to talk with the guys there. The package woofers are small, wife friendly but performance vs. price doesn`t really match up. Also you have shorter amp warranty. So to get your moneys worth choose one from company that specialized making them. There is no matching requirement either. SVS has certain models in black ash, gloss black and gloss white. The models are priced from 550£ to 3000£ which you would be looking. I It would be terrible that you spend 5k£ and don`t get what you have been dreaming of. AVO like any dealer will change the package subwoofer out when asked. It´s not worth the 1k£.

If you are intrested of SVS tell us your room size with possible openings and is it detached house or apartment with neighbours? I`m trying to figure out are you after real cinema volume levels or more moderate.

Does it need to be gloss black and do you have size restrictions?


Well I think I’ll go with this one for the similar price, I actually live in a share house but my room is really big i dunno how many sq it is . I was concerned if that package is not an overkill as all I want is high quality surround sound for movies and games not necessarily big and loud though. I will definitely get the cables you recommended too. Colour does not matter but this package takes whole 1k from receiver so picked that one.
That’s the woofer I think I ask tomorrow to swap SVS SB3000 Gloss Black Subwoofer - Subwoofers - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists and thanks.
 

Joe Fernand

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‘I have been advised’ - I would ignore that advice!

Speaker system - an idea of your room, room layout (seating etc) and speaker layout/mounting options is required before folk can give you a steer on suitable loudspeakers for your room.

Joe
 

Gasp3621

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Well I think I’ll go with this one for the similar price, I actually live in a share house but my room is really big i dunno how many sq it is . I was concerned if that package is not an overkill as all I want is high quality surround sound for movies and games not necessarily big and loud though. I will definitely get the cables you recommended too. Colour does not matter but this package takes whole 1k from receiver so picked that one.
That’s the woofer I think I ask tomorrow to swap SVS SB3000 Gloss Black Subwoofer - Subwoofers - AV Online - UK Home Cinema and Hifi Specialists and thanks.

If you have larger room then the Silver 300 isn`t going to be overkill. They are quite normal sized floorstanders with dual 6,5" drivers so don´t require tons of space. However the center channel is MASSIVE and you need to pay attention that you optimize the placement for it! Not inside cabinet, not too low shooting your knees. It`s the most active speaker in your system! See below picture for example. @StefanBFC had like ~20sqm room with the same Silver 300 front three with dual (2) SVS woofers.in front and rear corners.

The SB3000 is a very good choice if you require smaller woofer. However keep in mind that the location plays big role where you going to put it. Front corner (furthest from opening) is usually the best location to start with, especially for larger room and more compact sealed woofer.

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gibbsy

Moderator
No such thing as overkill. Wrong speakers in the wrong position in a small room is a different matter but even standmounts on a good stand will take up as much floorspace as an equally sized floorstanding speaker. It's often that the standmounts can be easier and more forgiving in placement. As Joe suggested a floorplan with dimensions would be a good idea.

The AV amp is a good choice, I have the previous X6500 and it's a very fine surround sound amp and should last you for years.
 

Eijin

Active Member
If you want to buy everything from AVO then change the cable to this one, you save good amount. Then just add the banana plugs Gibbsy linked for you and install them yourself after you have cut each wire. Youtube has zillion videos showing how it`s done. You need 4 plugs per cable/channel (amp and speaker side). Don´t fall in to market mens stories about how airy and delicous it sounds with these Silver coated cables which has the latest space technology used by Nasa. Spend 2,5£/meter max. Fisual is basic Oxygen Free Copper wire with 2,5mm2 thickness so it`s fine for longer runs aswell.

As you are spending so much and likely you want to be blown away with latest blockbuster movies swap the subwoofer something from SVS as AVO sells them for good prices. If there is warehouse deal in the site, join v.i.p and you get -10% further discount. But you need to talk with the guys there. The package woofers are small, wife friendly but performance vs. price doesn`t really match up. Also you have shorter amp warranty. So to get your moneys worth choose one from company that specialized making them. There is no matching requirement either. SVS has certain models in black ash, gloss black and gloss white. The models are priced from 550£ to 3000£ which you would be looking. I It would be terrible that you spend 5k£ and don`t get what you have been dreaming of. AVO like any dealer will change the package subwoofer out when asked. It´s not worth the 1k£.

If you are intrested of SVS tell us your room size with possible openings and is it detached house or apartment with neighbours? I`m trying to figure out are you after real cinema volume levels or more moderate.

Does it need to be gloss black and do you have size restrictions?


I have just phoned them up and they told me that they can’t do swaps as these bundles are created by manufacturers or so and advised to choose different speaker package,but in that case I’m not getting that nice deal with this receiver is the monitor sub really that “average “?
 

Eijin

Active Member
Banana plugs can be used at both ends, ie, amp and the speaker. Termination means that they will be terminated at both ends. A dealer, or manufacturer termination can often be better than attempting it yourself but adds quite considerably to the cost. You could just buy the cable and them fit banana plugs to the amp end and bare wire to the speaker. Easy enough to do. I use the banana plugs below.

If your buying well over £3K equipment from AV I'd be asking for a very good deal on unterminated cable and some banana plugs. If you don't ask, you don't get.

Personally I'd buy Van Damme Blue at around £2.50-£3.00 per metre and use Fisual banana plugs. Cable is cable, nothing magic and it's won't make a difference to audio quality as long as the diameter is enough for long runs and it's oxygen free construction. There's a lot of snake oil around speaker cables.


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If you have larger room then the Silver 300 isn`t going to be overkill. They are quite normal sized floorstanders with dual 6,5" drivers so don´t require tons of space. However the center channel is MASSIVE and you need to pay attention that you optimize the placement for it! Not inside cabinet, not too low shooting your knees. It`s the most active speaker in your system! See below picture for example. @StefanBFC had like ~20sqm room with the same Silver 300 front three with dual (2) SVS woofers.in front and rear corners.

The SB3000 is a very good choice if you require smaller woofer. However keep in mind that the location plays big role where you going to put it. Front corner (furthest from opening) is usually the best location to start with, especially for larger room and more compact sealed woofer.

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this Is my room maybe not as large as living room but large I guess I could use an advice about positioning them🤗
 

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StefanBFC

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I have just phoned them up and they told me that they can’t do swaps as these bundles are created by manufacturers or so and advised to choose different speaker package,but in that case I’m not getting that nice deal with this receiver is the monitor sub really that “average “?

Have a chat with Richer Sounds. They really do have good customer service.

Ask for the Silver 5.0
SVS SB3000
Denon 6700.

Tell then AVO online have a package deal and see if they can match it with changing the sub too. I think there is a wait though on SVS subs at the moment.
 

Gasp3621

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this Is my room maybe not as large as living room but large I guess I could use an advice about positioning them🤗


Can`t you place the system in the living room rather than in bedroom?

Yes the sub is not really what you want for 5k£ system. There is other dealers which will make it happen though.
 

Eijin

Active Member
Can`t you place the system in the living room rather than in bedroom?

Yes the sub is not really what you want for 5k£ system. There is other dealers which will make it happen though.
As I mentioned before I only live in a share house since I’m on my own
Can`t you place the system in the living room rather than in bedroom?

Yes the sub is not really what you want for 5k£ system. There is other dealers which will make it happen though.
is this room suitable for 5.1 package at all would think you could set the monitors here? If so could advise something?
 

Gasp3621

Distinguished Member
As I mentioned before I only live in a share house since I’m on my own

is this room suitable for 5.1 package at all would think you could set the monitors here? If so could advise something?
Shared house ok. The room needs work and not sure how comfy is to lay on bed watching stuff or are you leaning against rear wall with couple of pillows? That is going to affect the sound in negative way as the bass frequencies tend to build up near boundaries and it can sound bit of mess then.

You would need to move that dresser on the right side of tv cause one speaker would go there and then you can´t open the thing! What about the left side of tv is there some sliding/opening doors in that brown wood cabinet or what you call that? Cause you need to spread the main speakers apart X amount, not squeeze them together. Center channel would be raised below tv, but if you were to keep that order i would question do you even need one if you always sit/lay on the same spot.

I don`t think floorstanders would be ideal as you can`t push them forward or there is no space to walk in the room. Ideally the tv and front three speakers would gone to one of the short walls at each end, but you have window there and i assume the other end has door to this room? Can you show the whole room?
 

Eijin

Active Member
Shared house ok. The room needs work and not sure how comfy is to lay on bed watching stuff or are you leaning against rear wall with couple of pillows? That is going to affect the sound in negative way as the bass frequencies tend to build up near boundaries and it can sound bit of mess then.

You would need to move that dresser on the right side of tv cause one speaker would go there and then you can´t open the thing! What about the left side of tv is there some sliding/opening doors in that brown wood cabinet or what you call that? Cause you need to spread the main speakers apart X amount, not squeeze them together. Center channel would be raised below tv, but if you were to keep that order i would question do you even need one if you always sit/lay on the same spot.

I don`t think floorstanders would be ideal as you can`t push them forward or there is no space to walk in the room. Ideally the tv and front three speakers would gone to one of the short walls at each end, but you have window there and i assume the other end has door to this room? Can you show the whole room?
What I was thinking of,but would like to hear some feedback is as you can see yellow dots. I have been planning to put small speakers on the wall facing bed another one on the opposite side off course. Floorstanding speakers where can be yellow dot is currently have Sony hifi but getting rid of it and another one opposite,I wouldn’t be able to open one side of door of wardrobes be on the left but that’s fine. Question is,speakers on the wall facing directly at you are fine? And floorstanding so far away from tv are fine? I wouldn’t put a speaker so I can’t open my drawer 🤗
 

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Gasp3621

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What I was thinking of,but would like to hear some feedback is as you can see yellow dots. I have been planning to put small speakers on the wall facing bed another one on the opposite side off course. Floorstanding speakers where can be yellow dot is currently have Sony hifi but getting rid of it and another one opposite,I wouldn’t be able to open one side of door of wardrobes be on the left but that’s fine. Question is,speakers on the wall facing directly at you are fine? And floorstanding so far away from tv are fine? I wouldn’t put a speaker so I can’t open my drawer 🤗

The front L/R shouldn`t be wider than the distance from speakers to listener. Good starting point would be L to R speaker to listener (3 points) would create equilateral triangle. That is what i start from and tweak from there if needed. As i mentioned you don`t have any space behind the rear ported speakers at front which are towers. Seriously you don´t require floorstanding speakers in that room (you have powered subwoofer with larger driver doing it`s job) and you aren`t really optimizing 1300£ costing speakers with your plan so if you aren´t going to be moving anytime soon or can´t swap the order i would re-think your options. Good pair of bookshelf speakers on stands would work great there without doubt.

For 5.1 the side wall position should work fine as the FX speakers are bipole/dipole and the tweeter part is in angle so it will shoot backwards and bounces from the rear wall to listener creating bit more diffused sound field. Another option is rear wall higher up which lot of members here uses with couch against rear wall with good results. Also normal direct radiating on-wall speakers should work fine too cause you have decent distance to them.

Front mains and equilateral triangle. Picture shows you what i mean. The way you have the fronts in your picture they look to be too far apart, but i`m poor guessing so better to measure.

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Eijin

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The front L/R shouldn`t be wider than the distance from speakers to listener. Good starting point would be L to R speaker to listener (3 points) would create equilateral triangle. That is what i start from and tweak from there if needed. As i mentioned you don`t have any space behind the rear ported speakers at front which are towers. Seriously you don´t require floorstanding speakers in that room (you have powered subwoofer with larger driver doing it`s job) and you aren`t really optimizing 1300£ costing speakers with your plan so if you aren´t going to be moving anytime soon or can´t swap the order i would re-think your options. Good pair of bookshelf speakers on stands would work great there without doubt.

For 5.1 the side wall position should work fine as the FX speakers are bipole/dipole and the tweeter part is in angle so it will shoot backwards and bounces from the rear wall to listener creating bit more diffused sound field. Another option is rear wall higher up which lot of members here uses with couch against rear wall with good results. Also normal direct radiating on-wall speakers should work fine too cause you have decent distance to them.

Front mains and equilateral triangle. Picture shows you what i mean. The way you have the fronts in your picture they look to be too far apart, but i`m poor guessing so better to measure.

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I can still cancel this order, I still would like to have nice 5.1 surround experience what would recommend here in that case? Sennheiser ambeo?
 

Eijin

Active Member
The front L/R shouldn`t be wider than the distance from speakers to listener. Good starting point would be L to R speaker to listener (3 points) would create equilateral triangle. That is what i start from and tweak from there if needed. As i mentioned you don`t have any space behind the rear ported speakers at front which are towers. Seriously you don´t require floorstanding speakers in that room (you have powered subwoofer with larger driver doing it`s job) and you aren`t really optimizing 1300£ costing speakers with your plan so if you aren´t going to be moving anytime soon or can´t swap the order i would re-think your options. Good pair of bookshelf speakers on stands would work great there without doubt.

For 5.1 the side wall position should work fine as the FX speakers are bipole/dipole and the tweeter part is in angle so it will shoot backwards and bounces from the rear wall to listener creating bit more diffused sound field. Another option is rear wall higher up which lot of members here uses with couch against rear wall with good results. Also normal direct radiating on-wall speakers should work fine too cause you have decent distance to them.

Front mains and equilateral triangle. Picture shows you what i mean. The way you have the fronts in your picture they look to be too far apart, but i`m poor guessing so better to measure.

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You asked for full room well before I was thinking of putting one floorstanding where hifi is and another by the wardrobe where you see fan ,one speaker on the wall by the mirror and another by the poster but that is not going to work right? Or how much am I limiting this set by putting them there? What are my options for this room?
 

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Gasp3621

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No, that looks too far apart for the front mains. Dolby and THX recommendation is 22-30 degrees off center from listening position. That room order is so problematic as the speakers would go in front of the cabinets each side at front. I think Monitor Audio recommends for Silver 300 - 30-61cm space behind the speakers. That means they would come quite a lot towards the bed and someone would knock them down. The FX speakers would need to go higher top of the mirror would be quite ideal as they shouldn`t go too close to corner and for 5.1 MA recommends to place them 2 feet from seated ear height.

You are spending so much money, but you aren´t going to hear the system at best. Also you have selected 11.2 receiver for 5.1 system so you are again spending bit too much here for product that you don`t really require. You would save 1400-999£ easily with something that would do the job for you (Denon X3700H or X4700H).

I would turn the order so the tv would go in the short wall where the door is, but would need some door stoppers so you won´t do damage for equipment as the door opens just there. Sadly you have bed so you can´t lean against it if the tv/front three speakers would be there.

I forgot to mention that new Monitor Audio Silver range will be introduced later this year so that means this Silver range you are looking will go on sale. So best is not to rush yet cause you would lose money and might regret after seeing the new shiny range! Of course there is lots of other options if you could swap the order and perhaps wall mount speakers, choosing speakers that are designed with that in mind!

If you were to keep that order you have then personally i wouldn`t spend so much cause there is so many things bothering me. Speakers against walls, listener against wall, speakers in way of furniture / walkway etc.
 

Eijin

Active Member
No, that looks too far apart for the front mains. Dolby and THX recommendation is 22-30 degrees off center from listening position. That room order is so problematic as the speakers would go in front of the cabinets each side at front. I think Monitor Audio recommends for Silver 300 - 30-61cm space behind the speakers. That means they would come quite a lot towards the bed and someone would knock them down. The FX speakers would need to go higher top of the mirror would be quite ideal as they shouldn`t go too close to corner and for 5.1 MA recommends to place them 2 feet from seated ear height.

You are spending so much money, but you aren´t going to hear the system at best. Also you have selected 11.2 receiver for 5.1 system so you are again spending bit too much here for product that you don`t really require. You would save 1400-999£ easily with something that would do the job for you (Denon X3700H or X4700H).

I would turn the order so the tv would go in the short wall where the door is, but would need some door stoppers so you won´t do damage for equipment as the door opens just there. Sadly you have bed so you can´t lean against it if the tv/front three speakers would be there.

I forgot to mention that new Monitor Audio Silver range will be introduced later this year so that means this Silver range you are looking will go on sale. So best is not to rush yet cause you would lose money and might regret after seeing the new shiny range! Of course there is lots of other options if you could swap the order and perhaps wall mount speakers, choosing speakers that are designed with that in mind!

If you were to keep that order you have then personally i wouldn`t spend so much cause there is so many things bothering me. Speakers against walls, listener against wall, speakers in way of furniture / walkway etc.
Right this order is not yet processed, let me ask you again what do you think is the best solution for this room what would you go with?
 

Eijin

Active Member
No, that looks too far apart for the front mains. Dolby and THX recommendation is 22-30 degrees off center from listening position. That room order is so problematic as the speakers would go in front of the cabinets each side at front. I think Monitor Audio recommends for Silver 300 - 30-61cm space behind the speakers. That means they would come quite a lot towards the bed and someone would knock them down. The FX speakers would need to go higher top of the mirror would be quite ideal as they shouldn`t go too close to corner and for 5.1 MA recommends to place them 2 feet from seated ear height.

You are spending so much money, but you aren´t going to hear the system at best. Also you have selected 11.2 receiver for 5.1 system so you are again spending bit too much here for product that you don`t really require. You would save 1400-999£ easily with something that would do the job for you (Denon X3700H or X4700H).

I would turn the order so the tv would go in the short wall where the door is, but would need some door stoppers so you won´t do damage for equipment as the door opens just there. Sadly you have bed so you can´t lean against it if the tv/front three speakers would be there.

I forgot to mention that new Monitor Audio Silver range will be introduced later this year so that means this Silver range you are looking will go on sale. So best is not to rush yet cause you would lose money and might regret after seeing the new shiny range! Of course there is lots of other options if you could swap the order and perhaps wall mount speakers, choosing speakers that are designed with that in mind!

If you were to keep that order you have then personally i wouldn`t spend so much cause there is so many things bothering me. Speakers against walls, listener against wall, speakers in way of furniture / walkway etc.
Was thinking about ambeo with earlier mentioned svs sub but this is again only soundbar and you pay 2k and with sub items 3.3k so you get proper surround system….but not for this room . What is your opinion? Oh I forgot to mention,in this bundle I’m paying only 1.5k for this av receiver as they take whole 1k off .
 

Gasp3621

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Was thinking about ambeo with earlier mentioned svs sub but this is again only soundbar and you pay 2k and with sub items 3.3k so you get proper surround system….but not for this room . What is your opinion? Oh I forgot to mention,in this bundle I’m paying only 1.5k for this av receiver as they take whole 1k off .

Not a fan of high cost soundbars. Rather cheaper speaker system if possible. Are you eyeing of moving in near future as per your receiver choice (11.2) so future proofing little bit to build larger system in next flat?

Now is bad time to buy Silvers (any model) as the prices should start dropping more in the coming months. I would feel bad seeing the new range as it probably brings Atmos speakers and again will sound little bit better.
 
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Eijin

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Not a fan of high cost soundbars. Rather cheaper speaker system if possible. Are you eyeing of moving in near future as per your receiver choice (11.2) so future proofing little bit to build larger system in next flat?

Now is bad time to buy Silvers (any model) as the prices should start dropping more in the coming months. I would feel bad seeing the new range as it probably brings Atmos speakers and again will sound little bit better.
I’m not planning to move anytime soon… I’m lost what should I buy to have nice surround here….
 

Gasp3621

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I’m not planning to move anytime soon… I’m lost what should I buy to have nice surround here….

You have too much stuff to hide, not sure how it`s going to happen. tv and front three speakers to left short wall. Then turning the bed around so you get more space and pushing it all the way to that window wall. Then i would buy some beanbag where to watch stuff rather than bed cause there is no back rest and not comfortable other than sleeping. You have to put some door stopper so when someone comes in he doesn`t slam the door to your speakers which would be at danger. It`s really shame you don`t have another room for the bed.
 

Eijin

Active Member
You have too much stuff to hide, not sure how it`s going to happen. tv and front three speakers to left short wall. Then turning the bed around so you get more space and pushing it all the way to that window wall. Then i would buy some beanbag where to watch stuff rather than bed cause there is no back rest and not comfortable other than sleeping. You have to put some door stopper so when someone comes in he doesn`t slam the door to your speakers which would be at danger. It`s really shame you don`t have another room for the bed.
Appreciate your advice again sacrificing everything,hiding stuff, reconstructing room to get most of desired speakers is not an option either. I’m leaning more and more towards ambeo and svs 1300 which is not ideal but seems like good compromise for this room or Sonos arc with two fives .
 

StefanBFC

Well-known Member
Id definitely want to listen to the Ambeo before buying at that price. I've read a little about it myself today.
It must be decent for that price
 

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