after much deliberating and almost getting a sober CRT instead, a last minute impulse made me go for the Panasonic 37PA20 after all. Found a great stand for it too, only 550mm wide and 400mm deep and so the floor hasn't been taken up ! Very impressed and extremely happy with it Don't be put of with images you may see it in the shop, I was put off for a while as it looked quite ordinary especially against the 37" Philips with its Pixel Plus processing. The P+ did give the shimmering but a very bright picture but the size of it let it down too. Who cares now, I've got mine and it looks SO good. Thanks to everyone who answered my questions, now I can return the favour.