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Final Fantasy is Grainy Throughout !!!

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  1. Paul Young

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    I have just bought the region 2 dvd and was very disappointed that this film is grain throught the picture especially the city at night time and close ups of the characters. I thought this was a digital to digital transfer. I have also noticed the same grain in a few other dvd player and widescreen tvs in the shops. What going on is it bad batch of disc? I found out on other forums that the region 1 is the same and some people say theres no grain and some say there is. I will be contacting Columbia tri star soon as the new website is open !!!!!
     
  2. graham.myers

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    I thought they added some grain to give it a more cinematic appearance. If we see something too perfect we don't believe it!


    Look at all the crops lost in "The Matrix" :)
     
  3. Jase

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    Certainly no grain on my R1 copy. It looks excellent all the way through.:)
     
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    The pic quality on R1 is excellent, which is more than can be said for the actual film...BORING, it's like watching one long FMV sequence from a computer game.
     
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    Hi,

    Those R1 users, what size screen are you using?


    There is grain on R2 version, i using a 40" screen RP.

    Its a shame the grain is there, i think it does not need it. Watched The Mexican the other day, it was crystal. So its definitely the film.

    More thoughts on the R2 grain on F Fantasy film.


    rai
     
  6. Jenz

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    It's not a digital to digital conversion, this is a myth.

    Notice the edge enhancement on the bodies against the desert sky when they collect the dead body spirit.

    Jenz.
     
  7. Jase

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    Mines a 28 incher!!:D

    If you want to see a grainy disc have a look at Aliens R2, bloody terrible!, THX mastered as well, maybe they just stuck the THX intro on it and forgot to do the disc!:p
     
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    I concur with your observation about the Dreaded Edge Enhancement. However, I have doubts about your conclusion that this is not a direct digital transfer. Certainly as regards the R1 item, I believe that it is. I draw this conclusion from the complete and noticeable absence of motion judder. That's not to say that, in the transposition from the original high definition digital master down to the lower-resolution DVD format, some digital processing wasn't applied; I'm sure it was.
     
  9. Timh

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    I bought the r2 version expecting it to be a Shrek beater, was I mistaken :mad: very grainy throughout the film.
    I thought it was an ok film.
     
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    So, it appears tyhat we have, on our hands yet another:

    1) example of PAL not being better than NTSC, despite the theoretical argument to this effect
    2) example of R1 getting a better product than R2
    3) reason to buy R1 and, if necessary, to get our players chipped/modded, whatever.

    So, no real surprise there, then.
     
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    Hi,

    Then why is it none of the UK mags reviewing R2 of the film have not picked up on this. Most reviews will say immaculate picture, free of grain!!. Like to know what copy they reviewed and if they were watching it on a portable tv.

    I am hoping to get a reply soon about this from one of the dvd mags.


    rai
     
  12. Paul Young

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    I noticed that too ! I will good to see those reply !!
     
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    I dont know what your all complaining about, just check out the swimsuit photoshoot:eek: worth putting up with a poor quality picture in my opinion.
     
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    Said feature is also present on the R1 item, so you can have both it and a clean picture, and not complain at all!
     
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    i've got r1 final fantasy looks ok to me.

    dvd
     
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    Mine came with a free Bikini clad Aki Ross poster from play :)
    my 10 tear old clamed it :(
     
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    I purchased R1 Final Fantasy when it first came out. I am using 28" Panny, (not 100hz) and I don't appear to get any visible grain at all - in fact I would have to say that its one of the best image-quality DVD's I own.
     
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    Hi,


    After watching the film, I found that the interior shots seems to have noise, but close up of objects and especially faces were ultra clean. Also outdoor sunny scences were immaculate. They seemed no logical reason why some scenes had grain and others did'nt. Just feel it could have been better in the image stakes. Picture wasn't better than shrek or toy story, etc.

    Worst picture ive seen of a big film is r2 of the grinch. Very muted colours and poor contrast.


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    Hey, (slightly OT) but I have to agree about the Grinch. Talk about a dissapointment. The picture was lousy
     
  20. raigraphixs

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    Hi,

    ''Hey, (slightly OT) but I have to agree about the Grinch. Talk about a dissapointment. The picture was lousy''


    Hi,

    Yer sorry, i meant i was most dissapointed with a hit like the grinch, to have a dissapointing picture, its far from the worst ive seen.



    rai
     
  21. tryingtimes

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    Okay - firstly the R1 and R2 versions of the film are almost identical. Both have distinct grain/noise.

    I too am getting fed up with inferior R2 releases (I'm not bothered by extras - I want picture quality). However, I don't think this is one of them.

    I had both on last night one after another and they are near identical.

    I see what Jenz is saying about the edge enhancement but I still reckon it's a direct digital transfer.

    I think the assumption that it was put on digitally is probably correct. I don't like it but I can see why they've done it. I've often used the same trick on my 3d renderings :)

    I'll do some more digging - there's interviews online with the people responsible for the transfer so that should tell us more.
     
  22. Jeff

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    EE has nothing to do with analogue to digital conversion, its a down conversion thing. Shrek is Digital yet it has plenty of minor EE.

    Jeff
     

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