Fill in flash with wildlife.

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  1. Holowlegs

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    Hi ya


    Was reading Photography monthly today, their is a piece in there about winter wildfowl. In it it talks about fill in flash. I have never used flash in a animal shot, but have seen on flickr and here that some people do. My concern would be wouldn't the flash scare the animals, with scaring animals aren't you also distressing them as well.


    Is there any on here that use fill in flash for wildlife, and if so does it effect the animal?


    Cheers Holo:smashin::smashin:
     
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    Don't know about flash, but I'm pretty sure cheetahs etc can here AFS lens motors from over 30 yards away! This is actually a bonus, as they turn look at you at just the right time :clap:
     
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    I've been wondering about this too.
    There's some quite stunning wildlife photographers who frequent DPReview and NikonCafe, they all use a touch of fill flash 'when required' by a touch I'm talking fill only and -1.5 to -2 compensation so I guess it's minimal to lift the shadows a touch.

    Since some of these guys frequent the same places over and over it musn't bother the wildlife much if at all other wise they would bugger off somewhere else.

    I guess a little flash of light is nothing compared to how spooked they get by noise and potential predators.
     
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    Hi mate,

    A few people I Know use multiple wireless flash for wildlife, as such, you can set up your flash nearer the subject, trigger it with the shot. The animal is none the wiser - job done before they know.

    Pete.
     
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    I've just realised that I'm being a complete muppet. I can mount my shiney new Nikon R200 flashguns on tripods next to our bird feeding station and the SU 800 will have no problem triggering them from range.

    PLAYTIME!!!!! :clap::clap::clap:

    If I get stunned bluetits dropping off branches, I'll let you know :D
     
  6. Holowlegs

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    :rotfl:

    Thanks for the help, got to try this now. Only got the onboard flash at the mo. But thinking of a flash unit before the Guildford meet.

    Cheers:smashin::smashin:
     
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    Hi ya


    Well if the rain hold off going to give this a go tomorrow, so if you don't hear from me in a while, you will know the swans didn't like it and have eaten me :eek::D


    Cheers Holo:smashin::smashin:
     
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    I tried unsuccesfully to get shots of the birds on the feeder in our back yard lit with flash a few months back. :thumbsdow

    I setup the camera on a tripod with a long (10m) shutter release and I retired to the house overlooking the feeder. I had my flash on camera so was using ETTL. The birds seemed oblivious to the setup and kept coming to the feeder without hesitation.

    However, the birds seemed to have lightening quick reactions, and most of the images were of the birds taking flight off the feeder. I wondered if the birds noticed the pre-flash (for metering) and took off so when the camera took the picture they were on the move.

    Maybe I should try the flash in manual mode so there is no preflash.

    Mark.

    p.s But they kept coming back so weren't that scared.....
     
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    Glad that's all it was, I was beginning to get nervous. :D

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  10. Holowlegs

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    Well the swans didn't get me :D

    Had a go at this this morning, animals didn't really seem to notice. I set the flash to -2. One thing because I had the flash on it brought my shutter speed down to 1/200, in doing this I lost a lot of shots. Will post some pictures soon.


    Cheers Holo:smashin::smashin:
     
  11. Holowlegs

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    Here is one that I have picked out.




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    Aperture: f/6.3 / Exposure:1/200 ISO Speed: 800 Length: 47 mm

    He or she didn't seem that bother about the flash going off, one thing it was a very grim day out there and had to use ISO 800.

    Cheers Holo:smashin::smashin:
     
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    Great shot the flash is well balanced with the ambient light.
     

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