Fiat 500 adnd why would someone pay £1900

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  1. la gran siete

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    for a titchy car made in 1974? A car that has a tiny space in the front laughingly called a boot, that is very prone to rust and has very liitle room inside:confused: on top of that its previous owner spent thousands restoring. It does look in good order I must say but when the new owner who also happens to be my mechanic, talks me out of buying a Honda Concerto K reg a much newer car with more room, more features , more comfort and a much better made car for the not humungous price of £700 I begin to wonder:confused: All because it had a smll oil leak which could cost a lot to put right. But then if I had spent £600 on repairs it would still have been a lot less than £1900.
    Then again he is a man that loves old Citroens including the 2CV and hates modern cars because they are a nightmare to work on and having looked under the bonnet of the Honda I can well see what he means.
     
  2. Mylo

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    I really don't know what you are on about this time but I'll take a guess.

    Classic cars cost lots of money plain and simple. The spares cost more and are in short supply, the cars cost more because they are more exclusive.
     
  3. Ian J

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    The Fiat 500 is an icon and highly collectable and commands a high price for that reason.
     
  4. la gran siete

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    Read the post- its quite clear!

    On the one hand collectors cars fetch a premium because parts are hard to get hold of and demand oustrips supply
    On the other no logic in paying almost three times the price for something that is much smaller ,much older, very cramped ,hard to get spares for has an inferior performance and would cost an great deal less of both were new.
    Then again the modern car is bedevilled by new technogy which makes it hard to work on requires specialist tooling and where engine room is very confined.
    Capiche?
     
  5. Mylo

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    You don't seem to understand the concept of classic cars. People buy them and sometimes invest more money that will ever be returned for one simple reason. They love classic cars.

    You class a £2k car as poncey which to be honest is laughable. I have a 20 year old Golf Cabriolet sitting on my driveway, that is a classic car near enough and will fetch decent money whatever condition it is in.

    Unless you know the original cost of the car and the equivalent value in today's money then how can you call the Fiat a cheap car. It was low cost in it's day but it is all relative to how much people earned back then. As far as I know the original 500 was made in 1957. As mentioned above it's an Iconic car.

    Hopefully Ian will be able to shine some light on this, as he has owned cars that are now classics.
     
  6. Ian J

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    There are millions of car lovers who would disagree with you. A Golf GTI is modern spacious, spares are easily available and performs admirably but I would much rather have a more cramped older car with difficult availability of spares, an inferior overall performance and the words Jaguar E Type emblazoned on the boot lid.
     
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    Yeah- why buy a Chippendale chair when an IKEA one is just as good? :suicide:

    Some Fiat 500's are worth a hell of a lot more that £2K as well.
     
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    Is this another "i just don't get why people like old cars" thread?

    it just comes down to taste and charector again. You either like them or you don't. I love classics cars but then i do have taste.
     
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    What's "Capiche"?

    :confused:
     
  10. Ian J

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    Have you never seen any American gangster movies :D
     
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    I'm trying to wind him up (it's Friday afternoon! :devil: )

    From the Italian verb "Capire"....

    (io) capisco
    (tu) capisci
    (lui / lei) capisce
    (noi) capiamo
    (voi) capite
    (loro) capiscono

    At least spell it correctly! :lesson:

    Rant off now...

    just a bit of fun...;)
     
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    read my first reply above:D
     
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    In the words of Oscar Wilde, you know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
     
  14. la gran siete

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    a fool and his money are easily parted
     
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    i know that a car that has a boot that you can barely stick a matchstick in, which is inclined to rust heavily, which is over thirty years old, which is uncomfortable to ride in, which would need constant care and attention nad which has low safety features( if any) isnt worth £1900 not now not ever,
    not to me anyway unless I could sell it on and make a good profit that is.:D ( i know someone who sold an IMMACULATE MGB gt for £350 to a policeman. "H e was ever so nice". I bet he was, luv. I would be as well at that price)

    My Saxo performs much better , doesnt have any of the above hassles, is only 5 years old and only costs £400 more.:smashin:

    Having said all that I do admire people who devote a lot of their time to keeping an old car going especially 2CVs which were an excellent car in their day.
     
  16. Ian J

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    Not necessarily so in this case. In the late eighties I bought a 1966 Alfa Spider which had been extensively rebuilt and ran it for about four years replacing just the silencer during that time and I ended up selling it for twice what I had paid for it. My contribution to it's upkeep was to keep it clean and have a routine annual service.

    Your views on "poncey" cars and food etc are well known but it doesn't mean that everyone else shares your values and from what I have read on this forum, most don't

    For what it's worth given the choice between a 30 year old Fiat 500 or it's modern day equivalent the Seicento as a runabout I would take the 500anyday as what it lacks in modern day creature comforts it more than makes up for in style.
     
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    I bet I know which one is worth more in 5 years time...

    The 2cv wasn't an excellent car in its day, either: it was never more than a mobile hen shed for peasants.
     
  18. la gran siete

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    Ian i fully respect other people's right to their views even though I may not agree with them.
    My mechanic neighbour would fully agree with you re Fiat 500 but at the same time he knows he's going to get some gentle ribbing from yours truly:D
     
  19. la gran siete

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    Incorrect, it was !The fact that it survived for so many years is testament to that fact .Cheap ,reliable workhorse that could cope with virtually any terrain Often seen on rough mountain roads.Looked feeble and not particularly stylish( who cares???)but they are still popular today with a strong supporters club. One of the best cars ever designed IMO.
     
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    The other cheap, reliable workhorse that can cope with any terrain is a...horse. The advantage of a horse is that when you finally get fed up with its lack of weatherproofing, comfort and speed, you can eat it.

    The Morris Minor was a far superior beasty. And it could even reach the legal speed limit, on a good day.
     

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