I cant believe I am writing this post but here goes. I have been looking forward to the 360 since the begining of last year, but recently I have had urges to throw the whole lot out of the window. - Firstly I am on my 2nd 360 my first one died after an update a few weeks ago. - Secondly I am fed up with bying games that dont work online as they should or promised. COD2 - It was lag city for 5 months untill last week when the patch finally arrived. 5 Months of having an unplayable game is IMO unacceptable. To add to this we can only host games of 8 players maximum. My question is why has it taken nearly half a year for a patch to sort the terrible online play and why have we only got 8 players in a game when a lesser speced pc could handle 32 players? DOA4 - How on earth can a 2 player game have lag in it. Unacceptable GRAW - We were promised the earth with this game but got no where near. The game has more bugs than Rent-a-Kill. The single player game looks lovelly but the multiplayer game has different graphics and contol method. Ubis excuse was that 2 different teams works on each part of the game. I am sorry but what kind of excuse is this. Did they not see what the other team was doing in terms of graphics and control. Also we were promised 16 player online co-op and death match. I have a 600k measured upload and i can only host 4 players in co-op and 6 in deathmatch. A long way away from 16 players. The game is totally flawed with graphical glitches in both single and mulitplayer games. I am personally fed up with splashing cash on games that dont work as they should. I have cancelled all my pre-oreders and instead will wait to see if these new games will work online as they should. Am I alone in feeling this and does anyone else feel we are getting a raw deal with online play.