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Favourite Fantasy Movies

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  1. the_pauley

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    OK - we've had horror and SF - so what are your favourite fantasy movies? Mine in no particular order:

    La Belle et la Bete
    King Kong (original, natch!)
    The Devil and Daniel Webster
    It's A Wonderful Life
    The Ghost Goes West
    I Married A Witch
    The Lord of The Rings (Trilogy)
    Legend (Director's cut)
    Time Bandits
    The Ghost and Mrs Muir
    The Wizard of Oz
    The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (original and remake)
    Lost Horizon (original)
    The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T
    A Portrait of Jennie
    Darby O'Gill and the Little People
    Sleepy Hollow
    The Curse of the Cat People (a marvellous - and gentle - sequel to the original)
     
  2. Harj

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    Conan The Barbarian
    Silent Flute

    erm, thats it! Fantasy films are not really that well represented in films, from my childhood i would also add Beastmaster, does Naked Lunch fall into any catagory?
     
  3. the_pauley

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    Huh? :confused:

    There is a rich vein of fantasy cinema (there is a cinematic history before the "Star Wars" era, you know - and try thinking beyond the Sword and Sorcery examples you cite and you'll find the genre is a broad church :smashin: ) - that list above was just a few off the top of my head. I've thought of quite a few more since compiling the above selection.

    One criminal omission from my above list was Jean Cocteau's "La Belle et la Bete" - one of the greatest films ever made in any genre, fantasy or otherwise. List revised accordingly! :eek:
     
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    "Being John Malkovich" would probably qualify as Fantasy - certainly should be in the list on quality grounds.
     
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    Hi,

    I'd go for:

    "Willow"
    "Legend" (Original version, with Tangerine Dream score)
    "Labyrinth"
    "The Dark Crystal"
    "Flash Gordon" (1980's US animated movie version, that turned up on ITV in or about 1983/1984.)
    "Red Sonja" (Yes, even though it is a tad dated. And Brigitte Nielson looked stunning with long red hair!)

    Pooch
     
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    The version of "Legend" with the Tangerine Dream score is not the original. It is an inferior version put together for the American market, with a "rock" score and some rather unsubtle re-editing and re-insertion of footage (particularly at the beginning of the movie) that completely nullifies the effect of later scenes. Some of the most visually poetic scenes were removed and/or replaced in a vain attempt to make the film appeal to a "youth" audience, who, the studio reasoned, would find it difficult to buy into Scott's vision.

    In other words, it was dumbed down. End result - virtually no one liked it. It's the similar studio mentality that attempted to destroy "Brazil" for the U.S. market.

    Ridley Scott's intended version has the Jerry Goldsmith score, a version of which was released in European cinemas. Even this was trimmed against Scott's better judgement. For the director's intended cut you need to look at the Region 1 double disc set where you will see the movie in (almost) all its intended glory. For purposes of comparison the alternative "yoof" version is included, and believe me it doesn't hold up well at all.
     
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    What qualifies as "fantasy"?
     
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    Can of worms opened by Squirrel God!!! :rolleyes:

    Well, the French get around this problem in their usual cool way by having a word for it (don't they always?), encompassing all SF, horror and fantasy movies - they call it "cinefantastique".

    At first a definition would seem to be clear cut; anything that deals with the fantastic/supernatural whatever-you-wanna-call-it, that isn't SF or horror. Pretty straightforward with something like "Lord of the Rings", "Wizard of Oz", "Pinocchio", "Ghost" or "Conan".

    Anything with a scientific (pseudo or otherwise) premise would be defined as SF. Take time travel stories. "The Time Machine" uses science as the basis for its story, therefore SF, "Somewhere in Time" (another goodie I missed off my list!) and "Time Bandits" use supernatural/fantastic means, therefore fantasy.

    But definitions of this sort are always open to debate. There are always grey areas/crossovers, something which the SF community for many years has wrestled with, as they like their SF clearly distinguished from fantasy.

    For example is "Alien" a horror movie or an SF movie? It clearly has a foot in both camps. Likewise "Frankenstein" is at once gothic horror and science fiction story, indeed the SF community embrace it fervently as one of theirs. "Dracula" is clearly a horror story, but it is grounded in ancient mythology, but so is "Jason and the Argonauts" which is a fantasy. Fairy tales are clearly fantasy, but how dark to they have to become before they metamorphose into horror? For example "Sleepy Hollow". And where do we put "Donnie Darko"? (Damn! Another one that should have been on the list - I feel a second list coming on...)

    So I suppose if it ain't clearly recognisable as Science Fiction or out and out Horror, it's probably fantasy. Even then it might have a little of the former two in its mix... I wish I'd never started trying to define this - I feel one of my heads coming on! :(
    Thanks Squirrel!!!
     
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    That second list...

    Donnie Darko
    Somewhere in Time
    Being John Malkovich
    The Whisperers
    Edward Scissorhands
    The Nightmare Before Christmas
    Miracle on 34th Street (original)
    Peau d'Ane
    La Dernier Anee en Marienbad
    Brigadoon
    Les Visiteurs du Soir
    Pinocchio
    Toy Story 1 & 2
    La Jetee
    Excalibur
    The Naked Lunch

    And Harj thinks fantasy is poorly represented in cinema?
     
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    You are right there the_pauley. I saw it when it first came out and it used the score by Jerry Goldsmith which I have on an LP.
     
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    Beautiful score - one of Goldsmith's best. Anyone know if it's available on CD?

    Every time I come on here it ends up costing me money! :rolleyes:
     
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    I use to be a member of a Jerry Goldsmith fan club and you use to be able to get hard to get soundtracks via them cheaper from a specialist. I got the Legend on one of the reviews. The only thing is is the track where they sing something like ringal, rangal as a backing. Ahhhh I can never get it out of my head for days.:mad: :laugh:
     
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    Are they on the net Garrett?
     
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    How about Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory, great fantasy story for kids (and big kids...) or Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - spot who's been watching too many films with their children lately!
     
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    Original Ian Fleming novel of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" is much better than the film.
     
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    It's been issued twice on CD in two different versions. The first is exactly the same as the original soundtrack that appeared on vinyl - this is pretty hard to find these days.

    However, the second release is a much better CD from Silva Screen. It contains a fuller, more complete version of the score with previously unreleased tracks and the cues are as they appeared in the movie - not slightly re-arranged as they are for Goldsmiths first release.

    It may still be available to order from high street stores if you have no luck on the net - try HMV, the Liverpool branch used to have this quite regularly in their soundtrack section.

    I think this is the CD's Cat No. - Silva Screen CD: FILMCD 045

    Hope this helps.
     
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    Cheers CrazyHorse for the info!

    And when are we going to get a proper widescreen version of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"?
     
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    Sorry I have no Idea this was in the days before the net I will have to do a search.
     

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