Farage to debate Clegg over EU membership.

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  1. karkus30

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    This has got to be a good fun. I don't think there will be much agreeing. It reminds me of the running man film when captain freedom returns to do battle with Arnold.

    Definite popcorn moment. I think Farage will hand him his arse. Unless of course they do the face mapping thing in which Farage is seen to be impaled on spikes sticking through a euro flag.

    Popcorn.
     
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    Well if Clegg's performance on his radio show is anything to go by today (being asked why people are being sanctioned for minor things and losing benefits for weeks, necessitating a food bank visit etc refusing to answer the questions truthly just trotting out the party line), Farage will likely wipe the floor with him. I think Farage would have more trouble with Ed Miliband, he's pretty good at putting his arguments across from what I've seen (more than most here, the joys of being a Labour party member). I doubt Ed M would have any fears of debating with Farage. Apparently Cameron is dragging his feet over leadership debates before the general election.
     
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    Well it was Clegg who challenged Farage to it. So no fears there either.

    I like LBC they did well getting that played out on air. Only two weeks ago they had Boris and Bob Crow. Man I have such a dislike of that scrounger named Bob.
     
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    Did you see the politics show ? Andrew Neil put up a chart on starting pay.

    Nurses, teachers, police around £26K ( my wife disputes the Nurses pay as she says it is lower )

    Tube train driver start pay £42K

    Its no wonder there is a long list of applicants for that job. That's more than I earned as a CEO. Sit there and push a handle.
     
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    Risk avoidance.

    Debates are always riskier for the incumbent.
     
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    No I didn't see it....but yes, something I've posted on here many a time and challenged many a time by linking directly to the pay scales...Heck if you think that professionals like that have a good starting salary, you should see the administrative support grades....Flipping heck, you won't get that in a company that has to watch its p&l....it is just not possible....
     
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    Clegg, to me is one of the worst career type politicians. Loves the spotlight- the first LibDem Deputy PM to have a weekly phone in.

    Just wait and see how he prepares his strategy so he and his party can switch to labour at the next election if the Conservatives do badly.

    I hope he does have a debate with Farage - it won't be easy unless he resorts to mud slinging.
    LibDem policies on Europe are hopelessly disconnected with the electorate.
     
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    My seriously socialists friends even agree on getting out of the EU. Its only a soggy wet sector that believe its some form of fraternal movement that want to stay in.
     
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    But at least he has the balls to take calls from the public, not all of them are that kind towards him.
    He completely avoided the questions about the target culture at job centres to sanction as many people as they can, even minor things can lead to loss of benefits. Not exactly going to help those who can't get to a job interview if they've got no money for public transport etc
    Jobcentre awarded staff gold stars for sanctioning claimants | Political Scrapbook

    That's already started, if Labour gets most of it's target seats and the Tories are decimated by UKIP Labour will be the largest party in the commons. From what I've seen, those who have defected to UKIP won't vote Tory to keep Labour out, they don't see much difference between the two.

    Hard to say how that one is going to play out, it might get interesting if Ed Miliband decides to take part in the debate. Cameron won't go anywhere near it, as the Tories will probably fear Farage giving Cameron a bloody nose and worse yet demand to be part of the Leadership debates before the next election if they happen.

    I'm waiting for a proper debate to be had on the EU, before we have any sort of vote on it. Anyway as long as we don't annoy the Germans if we do pull out of the EU, we should be alright.
     
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    I know what you mean. Import tariffs could make BMW prices skyrocket.
     
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    I'm glad my Mercedes is made in the USA :)
     
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    Mercedes prices, Porsche prices, Mercedes prices, Volkswagen prices. Then there are electrical terminals, control gear, switchgear, power components, motors, push buttons, contractors, sensors, crimps, tools, lenses, cameras, logic controllers, timers, control cabinets, medical equipment......
     
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    Then again import tariffs could go down as well and set how we want them :) or god forbid, do away with them :)
     
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    Free trade. What an excellent idea. The EU should consider it.
     
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    If this happens, I hope Farage reminds Clegg of this: [​IMG]

    The poster that haunts him.
     
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    But Lib Dems don't want people to have their say ...
     
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    :)

    The general election next year will be quite interesting. I wonder how the LibDems will shake out?
     
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    You mean like the dirty water from a collender?
     
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    Sorry, but it's really bothering me.

    You couldn't change the title to "debate *with* Clegg", perhaps?
     
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    So Cameron, Clegg, and Milliband are career politicians.

    Don't you think our "representatives" should all have spent a certain number of years doing real jobs before being allowed to be MP's?
     
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    They should be doing real jobs and quit being MPs. It was once a voluntary/part time unpaid role which it should still be IMO. This apparently prevented working class MPs from taking part. I think they should be paid on a voluntary basis by their electorate. If they aren't doing much, or you haven't voted for them then they don't get paid. They could have a price against their names at the ballot box.
     
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    If you include the Higher area Cost Supplement, the inner London is 20% of basic salary, minimum of £4076 and maximum of £6279. Middle of band 4 and band 5 start at £21000+, so around £26000 is about right for Inner London newish qualified Nurse. That about pays London Rent.

    Expect a drop down the band increments further away from cities and Inner & outer London scheme obviously stops completely, not sure on the geographical boundaries of the scheme.
     

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