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False wall for plasma

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Building DIY' started by John Langton, Aug 18, 2005.

  1. John Langton

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    I hope I will do a good job in describing this as I have no pictures avail to make it easier. When looking through AV magazines I se some amazing living rooms with what appears to be a false wall around the plasma. Kind of comes a metre or so either side so u can put ur speakers on also then runs up fush with the wall behind it. Any way what are these walls called and how easy are they to put up as my plasma is just bolted onto the wall by the frame and i dont like the fact you can see the frame. I dont want to put a hole in the existing wall to set the plasma back further however I would like to put up a false wal around it. The wall only needs to come out about 2 1/2 inches

    Thanks

    John

    PS Ive found a pic below which is similar but I would want it a bit wider
     

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  2. John Langton

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    here is an even better pic of what i need
     

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    Hi. Its often referred to as a stud wall, false wall etc. Constructed from sawn timber which is literally screwed to the wall. Over this is placed plasterboard sheets which can either be skimmed (thin covering of finishing plaster to create a smooth surface ready to decorate) or taped and jointed along the plasterboard joints to hide them. Then to decorate.

    All cabling can be hidden in the void which can/should be filled with some insulation.

    The calculations will be the most difficult factor with you having to decide dimensions, depths etc. You can plan them out on the wall prior which should make the job easier.

    Its a pretty straightfoward job for anyone with basic DIY skills and an electric drill. You might want to call in a plasterer to do the skimmed finish which should be no more than around £60.

    Have a look at some of the threads on here which go to great lenghts to give you a step by step guide with pics too.

    good luck

    regards FRANC
     
  4. Xstyle

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    OR... why not put it IN the wall???!

    See my signature for expensive ideas!!! :eek:
     
  5. John Langton

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    Thanks for the info guys. Are there not any suppliers that supply these studd/fake walls for easy assembly? or special order once they have your dimensions?

    John
     
  6. Mad Ad

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    no you cant buy them made to measure but any carpenter in your local paper will be able to make one for you without too much fuss and should be finished the same day.
     
  7. stroppygoblin

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    John,
    These shots should give you some idea as to whats involved. It really is very easy to do and should not be out of the capabilities of the average DIY'er.

    Let me know if you have any questions on construction or materials used.

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    That looks great,but how thicks the wood?Do you have a picture of it after it's been plastered.
     
  9. Kenny Glasgow

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    Nice job :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
     
  10. stroppygoblin

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    Thanks - As soon as it IS plastered I'll post some pics :smashin: I've been away on holiday and not had chance to get the final touches done yet.

    The wood is 12.5mm thick which is enough to cover most if not all types of cable. I've used flat scarts throughout, mainly for the tightness of bends that you can get where it meets the equipment. The plasterboard is a standard 9mm thickness so the total depth is a shade under 22mm. Once plastered, and painted It should all blend into the wall behind it.
     
  11. John Langton

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    looks good and gives me a good idea looking forward to seeing it plastered and painted, how did you put the shelves up?

    John
     
  12. stroppygoblin

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    The shelves are bespoke. (nothing commercially available was deep enough :mad: ) They are made of two real oak veneered mdf boards sandwidched together and then oak veneered. There is a slot cut in the back of each shelf, into which a 'T' piece of aluminium extrusion is located. The T piece is screwed to the wall and the shelf simply pushes onto it and is secured from below by two 'invisible' screws.

    The picture below should show this in more detail.

    [​IMG]
     
  13. nathsea

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    Those shelves look excellent....
    A couple of questions if i may...

    Where did you get the aluminium from?
    How much weight will they hold, I`d want to be able to put my receiver on one?

    Many Thanks

    Nathan
     
  14. stroppygoblin

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    Nathan,
    The shelves were made for me by my next door neighbor. He is a cabinet maker by trade and I belive the aluminium extrusions were 'obtained' from his company. I'll ask him if they are commercially available next time I see him - will let you know.

    Weightwise the shelves are pretty robust. I have a fairly hefty Sony amp (STR-DE495, you might find some weight specs online somewhere) and it handles this with ease. Due to the location I have the shelves in, I am intending to add extra support by inserting a short metal rod into the shelf and the right hand wall, although this is purely a belt and braces measure as the shelves have been up for over 6 weeks without this and have no signs of drop.

    I am extremely pleased with the quality of the shelves and they were made for a very reasonable £60 for the 4 :clap:
     
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    Ok here is mine.. the start ...

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    To finish.

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    Just got to put cables under skirting. :)
     
  16. thfccambs

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    splnter,looks great m8.
     
  17. Kenny Glasgow

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    Very nice indeed! :smashin:
     
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    Great job!!! I always figured that they were on the great British chimney breast! hahaha!!!
     
  19. John Langton

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    Splinter how have you held your wooden frame together? did you just nail it or have you pre drilled and then wood screwed it together? Looks an amazing job and did you do it yourself? was it hard?

    John
     
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    Stroppy goblin quick question if I may. What colour is that wall to the right of your pics? Just in the process of selecting a colour for the living room and like that colour

    John
     
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    Hi, John, Yes it was Pre drilled... and yes we did build it are selfs, well me and a friend. :) Took about 3 days to do.

    We first made the frame then built a frame to go inside it, then screwed it togeather :)

    Here is a pic what it looked liked before we put it together.


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  22. John Langton

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    Looks good splinter. What size wood is it your using? My plasma is already bolted to the wall so I will have to build a similar frame around it but it comes out from the wall about the same as yours does

    Thanks for the info so far

    John
     
  23. stroppygoblin

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    John, I can't recall off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure it was from the Dulux range though. I'll ask the wife tonight (she picks the colours :smashin: )
     
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    Stroppy,

    I have to say that the simplicity of our solution to hide the wires is genius.

    Have you any remaining photos to show?
     
  25. stroppygoblin

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    Cheers :smashin: I'm afraid no further progress has been made due to other commitments. I do have a deadline now though. The new sofas arrive on 2nd October so work MUST be completed by then (orders from 'er indoors :lesson: )
     
  26. stroppygoblin

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    Update time!

    Finally got the walls plastered and decorated!

    My best attempt at plastering yet:
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    Papered and painted:
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    And another angle:
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    still some bits to do (isn't there always?) the white bit of conduit you can see on the chocolate coloured wall is a temp solution. I think I'll chase this in as it is the satellite cables and will stay even if we move, so no harm in making it permanant. The choccy wall needs a repaint as well, but Mrs Goblin is awaiting the brown leather sofa arrival in order to ensure colour match!

    I've enjoyed this project, it's turned out pretty much as I envisioned it. I hope to get together all of the pictures from start to finish and post here as a seperate thread - watch this space!
     
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    Very nice and clean setup, sg. :smashin:
     
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    Lovely job Stroppy....looks great.

    You and Werdenskrieg have definitely inspired me to do something similar when I move into my new house.
     
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    Looks very smart, i like the shelving as well.
     
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    Stroppygoblin, that looks superb.............. :smashin:

    How exactly are the sockets connected into the existing
    wiring of your home?

    Johnny.
     

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