European Elections - 23 May 19 - Who will you vote for?

Who will you vote in the upcoming European Elections? (if held in UK)

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Labour

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 27 18.2%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 10 6.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SNP

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • Far Rights (BNP / EDP)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 75 50.7%
  • Will abstain/spoil the paper out of protest

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 6.8%

  • Total voters
    148
  • Poll closed .

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
But it still doesn't excuse the lack of democracy in the EU. No matter how desperate you are to deflect from that.
Not trying to deflect at all. You have just had your chance to influence the key appointments in the EU via the Parliamentary elections. I’m sure a savvy voter such as yourself looked at the voting intentions of the group your party was going to join. So it’s not quite as undemocratic as you make out. In many ways there is equivalence to our own Executive.
 

Squiffy

Distinguished Member
Not trying to deflect at all. You have just had your chance to influence the key appointments in the EU via the Parliamentary elections. I’m sure a savvy voter such as yourself looked at the voting intentions of the group your party was going to join. So it’s not quite as undemocratic as you make out. In many ways there is equivalence to our own Executive.
There is no equivalence to our parliamentary democracy where MPs have real power, as we've seen over the last few months.

Influence key appointments? You mean be given the opportunity to rubber stamp them? MEPs won't even be able to do that for the next president of the EU council? For the next president of the EU commission they will be presented with a fait accompli and asked to endorse a candidate they have no influence in choosing.

They don't even have that power with the commission and cannot vote against individual commissioners being appointed.

It's a sham of democracy and you must be embarrassed trying to defend it.
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
MEPs can veto key appointments such as the EU Commission President. That isn’t rubber stamping. Commissioners are appointed by Member States so if you don’t like ours, the correct action is to lobby the UK Government.
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
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Sonic67

Distinguished Member
It's not really my choice, it's how your post came across. Pointing another poster towards kids math in response to a statement that we have a divided country did seem patronising. Maybe you should think about how your posts come across more before posting? :smashin:
Agreed. :smashin:

It must be hard typing with your fingers in your ears?
 

Squiffy

Distinguished Member
MEPs can veto key appointments such as the EU Commission President. That isn’t rubber stamping. Commissioners are appointed by Member States so if you don’t like ours, the correct action is to lobby the UK Government.
The correct action would be to have proper democratic accountability within the EU.

We don't.
 

weaviemx5

Distinguished Member
Hehehe yup typical labour luvvy one rule for them and another for everyone else. And oh so sensitive when challenged on the topic, yet responding playing the person.
“Labour luvvy”? You were the one that posted in a derogatory manner then played the victim as ever instead of just apologising.

You also didn’t “challenge on the topic”, you posted a link to a kids math site because you didn’t understand what divided means, but maybe I’ll get another sad face because you didn’t mean it :smashin:
 
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Sonic67

Distinguished Member
I did think about how that came across? You ignored the main point of my posts and just cherry picked by alleging whataboutery. Hence, ignoring the facts and putting your fingers in your ears. :smashin:
Too funny to respond. :)
 

raduv1

Distinguished Member
Its a conundrum for remainers as if we end up remaining in the EU then Nigel and the Brexit Party will only get more support and backing .

The only way to kill off the Brexit Party is to Brexit , what a bummer :D.
 

psikey

Well-known Member
If we don't Brexit and there is a GE I'm sure it would be a hung parliament.

So either Tory/Brext party as Leavers or a Labour/Liberal/Green as remainers.

Don't think any one party would have sufficient votes on their own.
 
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Greg Hook

Moderator & Reviewer
Could Sonic67 and Weaviemax just have a thread on their own? That way they can continue to argue endlessly about the same thing and leave the other threads for everyone else. :D
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
Now that the NI votes are in we can add 2 seats for remain and 1 for leave. So that's 30 seats for Leave and 28 for Remain.

Pretty close :thumbsup:
Not for this guy.

Local election candidate Patrick Feeney - one man with (literally) one vote in Galway City Central

Galway local election candidate Patrick Feeney has won just one vote in the local election vote in Galway City Central.

Mr Feeney also ran for election in two other wards - Galway City West, where he gained 15 first preference votes (so a total of 16 in the city area, with one transfer vote in each ward bringing him to 18 votes), and in Connemara South, where he gained an additional 32 votes.

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Sonic67

Distinguished Member
BBC finally forced to reign back on some of its bias regarding the EU elections.

The BBC with their original graph:

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Which suggests more voted for Anti-Brexit parties than Pro-Brexit parties and pretending the conservative stance on Brexit was ambiguous.

So after Michael Dawes was rebuffed twice by the BBC the chart is finally gone.

See his twitter thread:

Michael Karl Dawes on Twitter

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The UK's results in maps and charts

Correction 20 August 2019: This article has been amended to remove a chart that attempted to show the performance of pro- and anti-Brexit parties, after a ruling from the BBC's Executive Complaints Unit.
 
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