European Elections - 23 May 19 - Who will you vote for?

Who will you vote in the upcoming European Elections? (if held in UK)

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 4 2.7%
  • Labour

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 27 18.2%
  • Green Party

    Votes: 10 6.8%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • SNP

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • Far Rights (BNP / EDP)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 75 50.7%
  • Will abstain/spoil the paper out of protest

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 6.8%

  • Total voters
    148
  • Poll closed .

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
Whilst there is significant uncertainty at present given where we are (or aren't) with Brexit, there is a possibility we will still be in the EU in May and thus have the right to vote in the European Elections. If so, who will you vote for and why?
 

rustybin

Distinguished Member
I feel I haven't been listened to by the elite, so I'll be voting for the 'I'd like to watch the earth burn' Party (UKIP/EDP/BNP) as I'm so desperate.
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
For me, I think it will be a choice between the SNP and Lib Dems as I think it will be important to send representatives that will be constructive. The same could probably be said for most Conservatives and Labour MEPs but, as both parties are deeply divided at present, its a little more uncertain IMHO.
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
I think it's important to send representatives that represent the UK and our feelings for the EU.

Anyone who will tell the EU to get ****ed.
 

Squiffy

Distinguished Member
Whichever party will cause the most disruption in the EU parliament.
 

nabby

Distinguished Member
I'm not going to vote as democracy is dead, or so I've heard and read?

Or perhaps it was that if I get to vote then democracy dies?

I think I'll wait and see what the Russian twitter and facebook bots recommend and follow that. They sure know how to tell me to stick it to the elites I don't care for so that the ones I do care for can get even richer and more elite.
 

Inversekinematics

Active Member
Only 4 here in North Wales. Labour / UKIP / Conservative & Plaid Cymru.
Wales relies heavily on trade with the EU so documents suggest, shocker when the people of Wales voted out. Punishment for leaving being dished out already. Council tax up again in North Wales, place still falling apart, bureaucrats still in high places, same old same old.
 

nheather

Distinguished Member
I think the answer to this is why the government is trying to avoid the UK having to stand in the elections - because the results will be too embarrassing for them.

Cheers,

Nigel
 

Rasczak

Distinguished Member
I think there is certainly some truth in the fact it is in the Government's interests that we do not partake in the 2019 EU elections. Whilst this sub-forum is leave heavy, for obvious reasons, it is likely the actual result would also be far right/Brexit parties are likely to do well in any actual election. It is clearly not a great idea to give such parties oxygen.
 

Over by there

Well-known Member
Voting in the EU is not as easy as the UK, that is working out where to put the X. There are too many faction and alliances that control the EU and a vote along party lines for the UK may find you actually supporting something different in the EU.

Once again I need to look to see where my MEP is now and what the other offer in where they are in alliances. Problem is as well, a lone voice in that cacophony of rule makers and rule benders is often no use. Meaning a sticking it to the man, the man don't notice.

Voted other as I have no clue at the moment.

Edit. The abstain/spoil paper option. There is no real benefit apart from personal feeling in this. There is no meaningful count of spoilt paper (a mention at the end of the count when returning officers mention the number) and until voting is made compulsory, and "none of the above an option", it will never mean a thing. And I have spoiled voting papers in the past.
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
It is clearly not a great idea to give such parties oxygen.
Yep. Better the electorate's view is suppressed.


It's odd but you used to describe them as "extremist" as wanting to leave the EU is "extremist."

Oh, you'd vote SNP.
For me, I think it will be a choice between the SNP and Lib Dems as I think it will be important to send representatives that will be constructive.
Not the first time you said you would and a party you thought would be finished after their vote to leave.

Also, you put the poll on here. Not like the result?
 

Over by there

Well-known Member
Thinking about it, I have no idea who my MEP is or how they have voted and acted.
Taking this as a reminder to check them out.

Edit. OK, four MEP and four different alliances despite coming from UK party lines.
Wales - 4 MEPs
Sorry for the Wiki links but...
Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy - Wikipedia
Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats - Wikipedia
European Conservatives and Reformists - Wikipedia
Greens–European Free Alliance - Wikipedia

Now I have to work through that and see proposed to see where the X goes.
 
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Marv

Well-known Member
How can people vote UKIP now our Nige is no longer there and what its become since he left? Might aswell just vote BNP.
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
Love it, Conservatives, "we didn't deliver on Brexit, now vote for us." Time for someone who will.
 

Sonic67

Distinguished Member
The EU would probably appreciate telling a different group of politicians where to go just to make a change.
I so hope they do over giving the UK a delay.
 

Bl4ckGryph0n

Distinguished Member
I think there is certainly some truth in the fact it is in the Government's interests that we do not partake in the 2019 EU elections. Whilst this sub-forum is leave heavy, for obvious reasons, it is likely the actual result would also be far right/Brexit parties are likely to do well in any actual election. It is clearly not a great idea to give such parties oxygen.
What do you mean by that this sub-forum is leave heavy for obvious reasons? What are those obvious reasons to you?
 

Bl4ckGryph0n

Distinguished Member
How can people vote UKIP now our Nige is no longer there and what its become since he left? Might aswell just vote BNP.
I could never vote for what has taken over UKIP, and never ever for the likes of the BNP. As much as I dislike the EU as an organisation that is just a step too far. I'd rather vote UK Liberal Democrates then any such party, and I include what labour has become in that category.
 

Squiffy

Distinguished Member
What do you mean by that this sub-forum is leave heavy for obvious reasons? What are those obvious reasons to you?
We are all so intelligent, charming and good looking?
 

Toko Black

In Memoriam
What do you mean by that this sub-forum is leave heavy for obvious reasons? What are those obvious reasons to you?
Can't speak for Rasczak, but maybe it's the demographics and in particular the age range of the users of this sub-forum.
AFIAK there is distinct skew towards the older age ranges amongst contributors and if that reflects the political/ideological patterns in the wider public, then one would expect that to also result in a skew towards support for Leave.

Correllation with age or not, it does appear obvious to anyone that looks, that the sub forum is significantly more biased towards Leave than the population/electorate at large.
 

Pacifico

Distinguished Member
Correllation with age or not, it does appear obvious to anyone that looks, that the sub forum is significantly more biased towards Leave than the population/electorate at large.
And the polling was wrong before the referendum as well..

Even those who voted Remain are heartily sick of the whole shenanigans of Parliament trying to thwart the result and just want it to be over - leave and get on with life.
 

Bl4ckGryph0n

Distinguished Member
Can't speak for Rasczak, but maybe it's the demographics and in particular the age range of the users of this sub-forum.
AFIAK there is distinct skew towards the older age ranges amongst contributors and if that reflects the political/ideological patterns in the wider public, then one would expect that to also result in a skew towards support for Leave.

Correllation with age or not, it does appear obvious to anyone that looks, that the sub forum is significantly more biased towards Leave than the population/electorate at large.
I guess it is like the view of the BBC, as many people suggest that they are pro / against etc...I think you are falling in the classic human distortion filter trap of thinking that the view you don't support is represented more.

I'm sure there will be some looking and find it obvious to anyone that looks, that the sub forum is significantly more biased to remain than the population/electorate at large.
 

IronGiant

Moderator
From the forum polls I would think that Leave is over represented by 20% or so relative to the general public. i.e. 30:70 on here General Public here:
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Remain on left Leave on right, so other factors must come into it.
 

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