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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Master Rahl, May 18, 2005.

  1. Master Rahl

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    I have some questions. Suppose a referendum was held today. The following questions are on the ballot. How would you vote?

    1) Should the United Kingdom adopt the EU constitution? [Yes | No]

    2) Should the United Kingdom abolish the pound sterling and adopt the Euro? [Yes | No]
     
  2. Drd

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  3. pjclark1

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  4. Ed Selley

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    1) No- I'm all for a Constitution just not one written by D'Estaing (sp?).
    2) Yes- but give it a few more years to iron out the bumps.
     
  5. mjn

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  8. Miyazaki

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    Yes - in principal, but not to this constitution.
    Yes to the Euro.
     
  9. Squiffy

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  11. pringtef

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    Today?

    No
    Yes

    Although i'm not inherently against the principle of an EU Constitution - I don't like the look of this one...

    K.
     
  13. eviljohn2

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    Today:
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    Soon:
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    Yes.

    Eventually? Who can say what direction Europe will take in the next few years.
     
  14. stevegreen

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    No
    Maybe, but certainly not yet.
     
  16. mjn

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    Perhaps a poll may been a better idea......
     
  17. la gran siete

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    As I dont know what the constitution is all about ( in fact its more of a treaty isnt it?) or what it entails I shall abstein .
    As for the Euro A RESOUNDING YES! If it works for all the other member nation then why not for us? I f someone suggested the USA should have 50 different currencies he'd be sent to the madhouse and rightly so. I wish people would stop blathering about loss of sovereignty ;we can no longer afford to live in "splendid isolation" and if we had joined the comon market right from the beginning we would have done so on terms much more advantageous to us and derailed DeGaulle in the process.What we have now is shared sovereignty and jolly good thing that is too as its helped to maintain the peace for thge last 60 years. If you have a single market then it makes perfect sense to have one currency. Period!
     
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    Now
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    Ever
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  19. Ian J

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    Excellent idea and if Europe adopts Sterling I can't see any of us objecting :D
     
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  21. GalacticaActual

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    NO to both questions, not today not tommorow not in the forseable future.


    Make the uk another state of northern america and build a tunnel to connect us. :D
     
  22. overkill

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    Yes - in principal, but not to the proposed constitution.
    Yes.
     
  23. Miyazaki

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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    I think I just had an horrific dream!
     
  24. la gran siete

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    sentimental attachment to a currency :nono: :)
     
  25. la gran siete

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    I wouldnt object if they did things the European way
     
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    It's not! Growth is low, unemployment is high, particularly in Germany, and recession appears to be on the horizon. France and Germany chose at will the financial commitments they will actually keep.

    If someone suggested the USA should have 50 different currencies he'd be sent to the madhouse and rightly so.
    USA and Europe...apples and pears......Completely different. Geographically, politcally,culturally, historically.

    If you have a single market then it makes perfect sense to have one currency. Period!
    My next door neighbour wears the same make of jeans as me, but i most certainly don't want to sleep with his wife.........
     
  27. la gran siete

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    When the dollar first came into a being it was a basket case . Look at it now.There is absolutely no reason why the Euro shouldnt be as successful in the future just takes time and the appropriate reforms. Britain at the heart making those changes is where we belong . This is our moment with Blair at the helm.
    Dreadful analogy
     
  28. overkill

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    Bad example. Germanys problems are 80% caused by the drag of East Germany finally catching up with economy, while the other 20% is down to Schroeders mismanagment. Sod all to do with 'Europe'.

    Back home, without our being a part of Europe, this area would still be up a certain creek without a paddle. Both here and Manchester have done well out of European money.

    What has that got to do with anything? The Major part of our business is with Europe. Our currency is valued higher, although not as much as it used to be, hence our goods are less competitive than they would be if we were in the Euro zone.

    Since the good old 'British pound' hasn't been since 1971, that argument is a figleaf for sad old men in union jack waistcoats............. ;)

    My biggest problem with Europe is the lack of accountability. If the elected MEPS were making the decisions I couldn't care less.
     
  29. ~Kev H~

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    I dont fully understand what the implications would be of us "adopting the EU constitution" so I cant say either way.

    What would the implications be? Why are people for or against joining it?

    - Kev
     
  30. SanPedro

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    No. (at the mo')

    If the French (generally the most Euro of all EU countries) are in 2 minds about the constitution it must be rubbish and ill conceived. I believe we are better off being a part of Europe rather than being apart from Europe. At least we then have a say in the running of the EU. If we're outside of the EU who knows what trade reforms or restrictions could be brought against us. Imagine not being able to bring all those cheap booze and fags back from Calais?

    YES

    The Euro seems to have stabilised these days and it would make a lot more sense for us to use a common currency with the rest of Europe. Bo**ocks to all that about losing our sovereignty with the pound. Money is money and if the currency is stable and able to compete on the foreign exchanges with other currencies then we should be in.
     

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