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Euro 2016 – Best TVs to watch it on

Aren't about 99.9% of the population going to be watching it in max 720p/1080l or whatever full HD tv channels pass themself off these days?

I watched the champions league on my venerable kuro krp 600 last night on BT HD still a chuffing great piccy...i think 4k is still a work in progress

However if you really want to see England struggle out of their group and get knocked out in the next round in 4k go for it ;)
 

droidlike

Active Member
was it fta via terrestrial? they encrypted the multi stream broadcast on 5w
Yes it was encrypted
so that only the premium subscriber/clients were permitted to watch the 4k version too

seems that they used almost all the dvb-terrestrial channels bands available to them
for the entire match
to free them up immediately a second later the end of the transmission

Premium Sport 4K - Pagina 61


for euro-2016 in Italy we are going to watch some matches in 4k too !

Rai and Eutelsat team up in Italy for record number of live Ultra HD broadcasts of Euro 2016 matches
 
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raduv1

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In regards to 2016 OLED displays , how is the motion handling for footy or sports in general ? My next display will I expect be OLED but I have been put off with members complaints about the motion handling .
 

addyb

Distinguished Member
I'd like to know this as well. I've narrowed my tv choice down to a ks7000 or a lg 910 oled. It's a tough choice for me and it's even debatable if I will have the funds for either for the euros lol. I've got £1100 so far which isn't far away :)
 

raduv1

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I'd like to know this as well. I've narrowed my tv choice down to a ks7000 or a lg 910 oled. It's a tough choice for me and it's even debatable if I will have the funds for either for the euros lol. I've got £1100 so far which isn't far away :)
Personally I'd go for the JS range 8000 , 8500 on the LED front as you should be able to find a cheap (ish) example and get more bang ( 3d ) for your buck. Also very low lag for gaming , in game mode ( can PM you calibrated settings for JS ) is always nice.
 

dr no

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Are they showing the Euro football in 4K?
 

addyb

Distinguished Member
Personally I'd go for the JS range 8000 , 8500 on the LED front as you should be able to find a cheap (ish) example and get more bang ( 3d ) for your buck. Also very low lag for gaming , in game mode ( can PM you calibrated settings for JS ) is always nice.
I did originally look at the js8500. Tbh I'm not fussed on 3d as I never use it on my current Sammy. I just thought it would be nice to have a new model as I've never bought one in the same year lol
 

raduv1

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Are they showing the Euro football in 4K?
Not that I know off , there has been a big uptake in UHD panels though and reading the OP this is for the upscaling and motion handling abilities of said UHD TVs .
 

MahaRaja

Member
The 'revolution' might be in TV technology but not in broadcast. As the Euro 2016 won't be in 4K to British viewers let alone in HDR. In addition, the other big sporting event, The Olympics in Rio, also won't be in 4K. This is shot in the leg for 4K and it will be shown in good 'old fashioned' HD. It will be at least 2020 when SOME of the broadcast by BBC and SKY will be 4K HDR. You have to wonder why GOT and other big shows are still not in 4K.

I'll buy a 4K set when the BBC and SKY shows 4K HDR flagship events such the Wimbledon, major wildlife programmes, if Attenborough is still around when it broadcasts. 4K and the related HDR clips are just to sell new TVs and a marketing stunt.

I bet even in the next World Cup in two years time, the BBC won't show in 4K HDR nor SKY!
 
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droidlike

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Are they showing the Euro football in 4K?
for euro-2016 in Italy we are going to watch some matches in 4k too !

Rai and Eutelsat team up in Italy for record number of live Ultra HD broadcasts of Euro 2016 matches

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The special broadcasts also involve the support of industry-leading technology partners, including V-Nova from the UK that will provide the P.Link 4K, a software-based contribution encoding and decoding system that will contribute the highest signal quality from the International Broadcasting Centre to be located in Paris.
 
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CAS FAN

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I'd say that some of the main contenders aren't covered there. The LG E6, B6, C6 and Sony XD9405 especially are some great higher end contenders.
 

Phil Hinton

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I'd say that some of the main contenders aren't covered there. The LG E6, B6, C6 and Sony XD9405 especially are some great higher end contenders.
Yes, there are no OLED's in stock with retailers we use or LG themselves and the XD94 is still not available. Unlike other publications, we only cover what we have actually tested and reviewed in person. As we see more they will be added.
 

nick etheridge

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I'd like to know this as well. I've narrowed my tv choice down to a ks7000 or a lg 910 oled. It's a tough choice for me and it's even debatable if I will have the funds for either for the euros lol. I've got £1100 so far which isn't far away :)
Do finance at richer sounds. Pay 10% deposit then the rest within 10 months. Thats what I did for my panasonic 65dx902.
 

droidlike

Active Member
4K and the related HDR clips are just to sell new TVs and a marketing stunt.
Ever heard of 4k bluray?![/QUOTE]
Ever heard of 4k bluray?!

4k clips ? omg...just seen martian 4k on my samsung js9000 + ubd-k8500 ..it's not a clip..sure !

ops..now I do have to see other 4 clips in 4k..mazerunner+madmax+fab4+sanandreas

if they are really clips I'll be back in few seconds to confirm you they are all clips ;)
 
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CAS FAN

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Yes, there are no OLED's in stock with retailers we use or LG themselves and the XD94 is still not available. Unlike other publications, we only cover what we have actually tested and reviewed in person. As we see more they will be added.
I had an E6 for 3 weeks and sent it back a few weeks ago (was one of the first batch that suffered from banding). I will admit that the Sony's are thin on the ground, but we've still got a few members with them. In fact I was with another AVF member viewing his 75XD9405 last night.

John Lewis have had both the 65" and 55" E6 in for a while and they are still in stock now. To be fair the B6 and C6 aren't in stock yet, but are coming in the next week. I can certainly respect that AVF should only be reviewing TVs which have been tested in person and I really like the AVF reviews. They are far better than the drivel you get from the likes of What HiFi etc. That said, i'd have though that with the exposure they would get, that the likes of LG and Sony would be falling over themselves to get their flagship/high end TVs over to AVF, where to be honest a large amount of their user base will be members.

TVs like the edge lit XD93 do very well despite their technology, but i'd have thought that any serious AVF TV buyer would be going for one of the LG OLEDs or the Sony XD9405. That's the decision i've ended up having to make.
 

johngerard

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Aren't about 99.9% of the population going to be watching it in max 720p/1080l or whatever full HD tv channels pass themself off these days?

I watched the champions league on my venerable kuro krp 600 last night on BT HD still a chuffing great piccy...i think 4k is still a work in progress

However if you really want to see England struggle out of their group and get knocked out in the next round in 4k go for it ;)
I would have kept 1080p, and maxed it out, by going to 10 bit HDR and DCI-P3 colourspace to match Cinema. Rec.2020 is pie in the sky for now. That, and 2160p, could have waited. At the screen sizes/distances people have in their homes, proper 1080p broadcasts, with 10-bit HDR, and DCI-P3 colour would be fine.
 

Goldorak

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I had an E6 for 3 weeks and sent it back a few weeks ago (was one of the first batch that suffered from banding). I will admit that the Sony's are thin on the ground, but we've still got a few members with them. In fact I was with another AVF member viewing his 75XD9405 last night.

John Lewis have had both the 65" and 55" E6 in for a while and they are still in stock now. To be fair the B6 and C6 aren't in stock yet, but are coming in the next week. I can certainly respect that AVF should only be reviewing TVs which have been tested in person and I really like the AVF reviews. They are far better than the drivel you get from the likes of What HiFi etc. That said, i'd have though that with the exposure they would get, that the likes of LG and Sony would be falling over themselves to get their flagship/high end TVs over to AVF, where to be honest a large amount of their user base will be members.

TVs like the edge lit XD93 do very well despite their technology, but i'd have thought that any serious AVF TV buyer would be going for one of the LG OLEDs or the Sony XD9405. That's the decision i've ended up having to make.
Trust me, we are serious followers but the bank account and the British sized houses we have may not always accommodate
I played lotto Friday so never know

Jokes aside, I have two messages. First one is a wish that FALD cascade to 65 and 55 soon enough and that Oled gets cheaper
Second, I have just seen the Oled e6 today and was very very impressed. It reminded me what I have seen on the pana Oled. I am
Therefore surprised you had banding already.
Can you share your impressions please unless you did that in another thread. Thanks in advance
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Trust me, we are serious followers but the bank account and the British sized houses we have may not always accommodate
I played lotto Friday so never know

Jokes aside, I have two messages. First one is a wish that FALD cascade to 65 and 55 soon enough and that Oled gets cheaper
Second, I have just seen the Oled e6 today and was very very impressed. It reminded me what I have seen on the pana Oled. I am
Therefore surprised you had banding already.
Can you share your impressions please unless you did that in another thread. Thanks in advance
My 65" E6 was one of the first batch that arrived in the UK. I got it delivered back on 19th April and sadly all of the first batch of 65" E6's suffered from a broad band with two darker edges to it (one right of centre and one left of centre). The one right of centre was very noticeable when watching content with a solid, lightish background (i.e. Football, where it stood out when the pitch panned).

There is loads of impressions (from me and others) in the E6 threads (they are on the 2nd thread now as the first one went a bit mental with bandgate), but a summary is as such: -

- Amazing colours, which really pop and give the image a 3D feel
- Stunning black levels
- HDR is great and the set delivers an amazing contrast between the blacks and bright lights
- Web OS 3.0 is a joy to use. Fast and never hangs. Everything is quick and easy to access and it all overlays on the main image brilliantly
- Audio - fantastic for TV speakers, but not up there with a dedicated soundbar or speaker system
- Out of the box on ISF Dark/light is pretty accurate, but with an over saturation of red and blue
- Greyscale is good and there's good 2 and 10 point calibration controls and it seems fairly achievable to get a fairly reference standard
- Good connectivity with 4 HDMI and optical
- WiFi, Bluetooth and ethernet
- Personally I don't much like the design of the E6. Not keen on the image on glass design and I don't like the look of the soundbar
- 3D is passive and as long as you are within the vertical sweet spot, it looks just stunning!
- There are some motion issues with fast pans on broadcast TV, although this is more down to the framerate of broadcast TV.
 

Goldorak

Distinguished Member
My 65" E6 was one of the first batch that arrived in the UK. I got it delivered back on 19th April and sadly all of the first batch of 65" E6's suffered from a broad band with two darker edges to it (one right of centre and one left of centre). The one right of centre was very noticeable when watching content with a solid, lightish background (i.e. Football, where it stood out when the pitch panned).

There is loads of impressions (from me and others) in the E6 threads (they are on the 2nd thread now as the first one went a bit mental with bandgate), but a summary is as such: -

- Amazing colours, which really pop and give the image a 3D feel
- Stunning black levels
- HDR is great and the set delivers an amazing contrast between the blacks and bright lights
- Web OS 3.0 is a joy to use. Fast and never hangs. Everything is quick and easy to access and it all overlays on the main image brilliantly
- Audio - fantastic for TV speakers, but not up there with a dedicated soundbar or speaker system
- Out of the box on ISF Dark/light is pretty accurate, but with an over saturation of red and blue
- Greyscale is good and there's good 2 and 10 point calibration controls and it seems fairly achievable to get a fairly reference standard
- Good connectivity with 4 HDMI and optical
- WiFi, Bluetooth and ethernet
- Personally I don't much like the design of the E6. Not keen on the image on glass design and I don't like the look of the soundbar
- 3D is passive and as long as you are within the vertical sweet spot, it looks just stunning!
- There are some motion issues with fast pans on broadcast TV, although this is more down to the framerate of broadcast TV.
Can't thank you enough
One question: do you think b6 is worth waiting for after what you have seen with e6. At £2700 starting price, it is getting within reach.
 

CAS FAN

Distinguished Member
Can't thank you enough
One question: do you think b6 is worth waiting for after what you have seen with e6. At £2700 starting price, it is getting within reach.
Yes, they should start to be available from this week. I much prefer the design of the B6 and whilst it's great on the E6, i'm not a huge 3D fan so the lack of 3D doesn't really concern me. If the panels are as good as the E6 and band free, it will be a great set for the money.
 

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