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Er--how do I connect this stuff . . . .?

Discussion in 'Cables & Switches' started by superann, Aug 17, 2004.

  1. superann

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    Can anyone help with advice on connecting up the bits of our home cinema setup? Thanks to Sevenoaks (for doing a hefty price-match :clap: ), we've got a Denon 2805 and AE Aegis 6:1 speakers. And we're about to order a Pioneer 43-MXE1 plasma monitor.

    We know how to connect the speakers. What we need to know is how best to connect the Denon to the plasma screen (ie, what cable should we use, and what should we connect it to), and which of the two alternative Pioneer connection boards (5003 or 5004) we should order. We'd like the screen to be able to accept signals both from the Denon and from a PC. Oh--and what kind of cable would we need to connect a PC? Is it a serial cable?

    Sorry if these are silly questions, but The Denon manual is not very newbie-friendly and we're struggling a bit! Hope someone out there can help. :lease:

    (BTW, I didn't realise this wonderful website had a forum specially on cabling, which is why this post appeared first in the AV amps forum.)

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  2. Joe Fernand

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    43MXE1 connectivity:

    If your not using the optional side mount loudspeakers on the Display go with the PDA-5003 Input card.

    PC with Analogue VGA out - a straight HD15 to HD15 cable will do the trick.

    PC with Digital DVI out - a straight DVI-D to DVI-D cable will do the trick.

    Denon AVR-2805 - err that's an AV Receiver; I'd get mighty bored just watching the set up menu screens :).

    I guess you want to connect its YUV Component video outs to the Display and all other Video sources to the AV Receiver and let it 'up convert' to YUV!

    If yes then a 3RCA to 3BNC Component video cable is all you require.

    NOTE - Keep in mind the 'up conversion' on the AV Receiver is a nice 'feature' but not necessarily the best option if you want the best video quality.

    If you have any S-Video sources that are deemed 'Primary' source (not Secondary - only used occasionally sources) I'd suggest you bypass the AV Receiver and send the S-Video signal straight to the Display - the Display has high quality S-Video processing on board which wont work if you convert S-Video to YUV in the AV Receiver.

    A Serial cable is a Comms cable - you would use that (with the required software) to 'control' the Display from your PC keyboard or a Master Control system such as AMX or Crestron (an option we use a lot in bigger installs) the Serial port is NOT a Video port.

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    Joe, thanks! :) That was really helpful. Could you just confirm one thing, though? Is the "Y U V component video out" you mentioned the set of three connectors, colour-coded green, blue, and red, that Denon have labelled "Y", "PB/CB" and "PR/CR" in the "Out, Monitor" section of the socketry?

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    Yes 'my' YUV is equivalent to Denon's YPbPr/YCbCr - there are a few variances on the Three Core Component signal; though the Display will deal will all of them.

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    :oops: We've got a problem getting our new setup working. Can some kind person give us some advice?

    Just had delivery of a Pioneer 43mXE1 with PDA-5003 terminal board. We've tried connecting the 5003's input 5 (G, B, and R) terminals via a three-wire component video cable to the component out terminals on a Pioneer 575 DVD player, and to the component out on a Denon 2805 with the DVD player connected to it. The screen can't detect an input signal on input 5 from either of those sources.

    Then we tried just connecting a simple video cable from the DVD player to the 5003, and it worked fine. Our son checked the component video cable with a multimeter, and there was continuity down all the conductors, also down the shields, and no continuity between conductors and shields so (he says) it looks like there's nothing wrong with the cable. We are using RCA to BNC adapters on the 5003 but we've tested them individually and they sem OK, too.

    Have we ordered the wrong terminal board? The instruction manual that comes with the board covers both 5003 and 5004 but is very confusing to a beginner. Or Is it possible that the 5003 is faulty? Is there any way we could double-check the input 5 terminals on it?

    Would really be grateful for some advice!! :lease:

    Thankyou!

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    You've just spotted the difference between one dealer and another :)

    Start with your DVD direct to the Display and once you have that working then introduce the AV Receiver in the signal chain.

    To confirm you have the DVD player set to output Component YUV use its on screen menu via the Composite cable you say is working to the display.

    Once you've confirmed you have YUV being output from the DVD player hook the Y out to the G on the Display - all being well you'll get a Black and White image.

    Now gook up the Red and Blue lines to get colour - though you'll need to tell the display to look for Component YUV not RGB in the display's menu.

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