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England v Austria

HMHB

Distinguished Member
Keep a lookout for me in the crowd, I'm the one who's looking thinner but will probably look a little worse for wear as I am having my 1st drink since July 31st today :eek:
I've heard that Ferdinand isn't playing, so we might have a chance today :)
I think we will win comfortably today :rolleyes: any more predictions ?
 

themoid

Active Member
I'll go for an optimistic 3-0. They have just booted their manager, can't qualify, and we are due a reasonable performance from our 'superstars' :rolleyes:
 

thfccambs

Banned
When was the last time a england team started without any man utd players? :clap:
 

Miyazaki

Novice Member
Austria to win 6-0. Sven to be taken out by a sniper.
 

scrapbook

Well-known Member
hunts1uk said:
When was the last time a england team started without any man utd players? :clap:
1999 against belgium :smashin:

Well done England for another cracking performance :rolleyes: :suicide: Too bored with them so can't be bothered to say anything else. Pahhh :boring:
 
England defend too deep, do not support the forwards and sven picks players out of form and out of position.
Crouch isnt good enough to be a starting man and why didnt sven sub him?
I want to see gary neville back he plays consistanly well and gets in some good crosses. Why is it england just give up in the second half and just start defending deep without any intention of going forward it anoys me soooo much we need a capitain who can take control.
 

NWhiteley

Active Member
John Terry should be the captain and perhaps it may be a blessing in disguise Becks being suspended, it may allow Lampard to have the same role as he does at Chelsea, o and drop the freak, he is never international class
 

scrapbook

Well-known Member
I am not sure how this would all work out, but the more I see Gerrard and Lampard as the centre two midfielders the more I think you have to have someone like King playing the Makaele role behind them and in front of the back four.
 

Jeff

Well-known Member
It looks like we have qualified. Holland 2-0 up.
 

sithlordx

Active Member
:lesson:
hunts1uk said:
When was the last time a england team started without any man utd players? :clap:
noticed your comment,funny thing is,since a certain paul scholes finally realised playing for england was like flogging a dead horse,england have been pathetic in midfield,when was the last time,gerrard in midfield,beckham in midfield,actually have a good game their again when was the last time beckham had any good game.same can be said about owen,sod it same thing can be said about all of them,could not believe my eyes tonight,owen finally getting subbed when playing **** :clap: :clap:
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
Yo, just got back from Kent Uni open day...trek and a half from Manchester... (5 hrs train)

My brother recorded the match for me. Thank god I can fast forward :D :rolleyes:

To answer the above point, Beckham last had a good game vs Greece. That getting to be about 4 years? He admitted in a interview, that he'll probably never play like that again. Before anyone says, that was a superhuman one man mission that day

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Carragher: he'll move the earth for the shirt. But don't play a right footed player on left = drift inside = lose width and momentum...which brings us to...

Joe Cole: same as above. He'd be much better on the right, competing with SWP...................and err Beckham :rolleyes:

Crouch: Good link up play but Paul Robinson would probably look more assured in front of goal...(attacking that is)

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I say: a) change players and manager or b) change system to

---------------Robinson----------

G.Neville---Terry---whoever---A. Cole

-------------Carrick*----------------

----Lampard---Rooney---Gerrard**----
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|
----------Owen-------*** --------

*Or Ledley King? Gerrard?
** What about drop one of Gerrard/Lampard and play SWP or Joe Cole?
***Defoe, Bent, whoevers flavour of the month
 

Jeff

Well-known Member
I would play 11 players, it works better than 10.
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
Sorry, realised mistake :hiya:
 

scrapbook

Well-known Member
Jeff said:
I would play 11 players, it works better than 10.
Although I would argue if you have Carrick in your team you are down to 9 :D . He couldn't tackle my nan so I don't understand why everyone is saying he should play the defensive role in front of the back four.

It takes me back to the bad old Spurs Ossie days when he played Jason Dozell there! :eek:
 

FruitBat

Well-known Member
Any lip-readers here?

There was a close up of Carragher at about 70 minutes and he seemed to be saying (I'm not a lip-reader):

"You talking to me? F Off, you ?????? [email protected]"

I couldn't get the ??????. I would guess "Spanish" or "Austrian", but I couldn't see who he was talking to.

Perhaps someone with a recording could check. It was about the only interesting thing that happened.
 

Steve N

Distinguished Member
Looking at Gerrards recent "Worst thing anyone could ever go through" experience (bless him).

I'm sure he would play a lot better if he was sure the Country wanted and loved him.

Er, gave him lots of cash :devil:
 

Kazuya Mishima

Novice Member
FruitBat said:
Any lip-readers here?

There was a close up of Carragher at about 70 minutes and he seemed to be saying (I'm not a lip-reader):

"You talking to me? F Off, you ?????? [email protected]"

I couldn't get the ??????. I would guess "Spanish" or "Austrian", but I couldn't see who he was talking to.
Was Beckham still on the pitch? :D :devil:
 

Kopite4Ever

Novice Member
england will be without beckham and gerrard on wednesday. gerrard got a muscle strain and has gone home. :censored: internationals, make us losing our players for 3 weeks a go.
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

^^ I've watched the bit of Carragher "swearing", but I can't lip read. He could be asking for a cuppa for all I know :rolleyes:
 

Lex

Novice Member
Whilst I wouldn't attempt to defend the way England have been playing lately I think people are being a little harsh on Beckham - to be talking about him not being in the team is ridiculous, have you seen the way he has been playing for Real lately (on the right) he has been phenomenal, some of the Spanish press were talking about him being the best player in the world on current form - now whilst that reaction is a little over the top, he is certainly good enough to be playing for England (on the right). I thought he was our best player against NI (not saying much I know!)
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
Its the whole squad, not just Becks

The players are phenomenal for their clubs (Lampard, Terry, Gerrard, Becks etc), but as soon as they put on the England shirt, they look ordinary

Anyway Brazil for the World Cup

I got a feeling if Eng got South Korea or a similar team with "energy + stamina", we'd lose
 

sithlordx

Active Member
Lex said:
Whilst I wouldn't attempt to defend the way England have been playing lately I think people are being a little harsh on Beckham - to be talking about him not being in the team is ridiculous, have you seen the way he has been playing for Real lately (on the right) he has been phenomenal, some of the Spanish press were talking about him being the best player in the world on current form - now whilst that reaction is a little over the top, he is certainly good enough to be playing for England (on the right). I thought he was our best player against NI (not saying much I know!)
concerning beckham,i feel since he left man utd he has not really performed,but the same thing can be said of man utd,the thing with beckham at madrid it helps when you are playing with a lot of good players and things are going well for the team then people notice you more,i know madrid untill recently have not played that well and no one noticed beckham doing anything for madrid.to be honest untill the englan team sheet stops looking like,beckham beckham beckham,gerrard gerrard gerrard,owen owen owen,beckham,owen,i dont think we will ever win anything and if we cop for a really tough group i think we will be on the first plane home. :lesson:
 

Steven

Senior Moderator
Look its the english media's fault

Brazil have Ronaldinho, Adriano and Robinho to name but a few (TRULY WORLD CLASS), but do they get a mention from our press?

How many other teams are experimenting with formations and players with a handful of vital qualifiers to go?

Other teams have a set system. We'll just have a 4 week break, that Sven will waste with meaningless friendlies and cripple half the stars

Sven said it was a "fantastic defensive performance" after the Austria game. HELLO?! Its p****** Austria?!
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
Kopite4Ever said:
england will be without beckham and gerrard on wednesday. gerrard got a muscle strain and has gone home. :censored: internationals, make us losing our players for 3 weeks a go.
ENGLAND ALWAYS COMES FIRST! :lesson:
 

la gran siete

Distinguished Member
FruitBat said:
Any lip-readers here?

There was a close up of Carragher at about 70 minutes and he seemed to be saying (I'm not a lip-reader):

"You talking to me? F Off, you ?????? [email protected]"

I couldn't get the ??????. I would guess "Spanish" or "Austrian", but I couldn't see who he was talking to.

Perhaps someone with a recording could check. It was about the only interesting thing that happened.
Probably Beckham his captain
 

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