England and opening hours

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  1. FishDUDE

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    I thought this was a thing of the past but in Sunday I went to a massive tesco in Exeter at 15:55 to get some provisions and was told sorry we're closing at 4! Then I thought fine I'll get some dinner at the pub next to the cottage I'm staying at but nope on a Sunday it opens 12-4. Is it just Devon or is the rest the same? I remember it being like this back in the 80s and early 90s when I lived down south but thought things would have progressed somewhat.
     
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    It's all about to change apparently.
     
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    Where have you been living? It's always been the case that large supermarkets close at 1600 on a Sunday.
     
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    Well, after years suffering from the lethargic Westminster system, it seems England/Wales could now finally be posed to move out of the Dark Ages with regards Sunday trading laws.

    Budget to propose longer Sunday trading hours - BBC News

    Background reading from the last time we discussed it on here:
    Sunday Trading Revolution (England) | AVForums
    ...but I think the fact we now have seen such relaxed Sunday trading work fine for years in Scotland means there is nothing to fear from this brave new world.
     
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    About time. Now all we need is to get rid of those pesky daylight savings and we'll be halfway sorted :)
     
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    Religion out of the workplace, education and politics next?
     
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    I personally don't want to see longer Sunday trading hours. Everyone likes the convenience of being able to get what they want when they want it, but I feel for those who work in retail where it's mostly a 24/7 operation.
     
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    Seeing the chocka traffic around Tesco and Asda on a Sunday I've often wondered how people coped when they wasn't open on a Sunday. Longer opening hours will hopefully ease the congestion.
     
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    I always find this weird when I visit England, it seems so archaic in the 21st century. Good riddance to it.
     
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    I wonder what sort of impact this will have on smaller independent shops i.e spar's and local corner shops.
     
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    I was surprised it still existed, I assumed it was the same as Scotland (IE please yourselves).
     
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    I think Sunday restrictions had a place before the Working Time Directive - but now we have defined maximum hours, minimum rest/holiday etc - the Sunday restrictions have really become superfluous.

    Also, from a workers rights perspective, there are a myriad of other smaller firms/businesses out there that are already excluded so people are already working Sunday. In effect, all that is happening here is a protectionist racket for small retailers is being ended.
     
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    They don't work 24/7 and a lot of people out there can only work weekends and would rather put a full shift in.

    I despise the current hours. Most the big shops around my way choose 11-5 opening hours, which means you've lost half a day just waiting for them to open up. If I want to go shopping at 6am like any other day I should be allowed to, if the store wishes to open that early of course
     
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    I work Sundays in the retail sector. I get paid a premium for doing so, it is also my most productive day of the week because of the shorter opening hours. My job is an absolute nightmare to do whilst a store is full of customers, so I actually look forward to Sundays where I can go in early (I work night shifts) and get ahead for the rest of week.

    It's already being discussed amongst our union reps that our Sunday premium rate could end with the introduction of longer Sunday trading hours. Increasing the trading hours is a lose-lose situation for me.
     
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    Now all we have to do is get the NHS to work for seven days. I often wondered why it was frowned upon to get sick on a Saturday.
     
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    Market forces define remuneration - and based on the 3% uplift during the Olympics quoted by the Minister this morning, they'll be cash to spare.
     
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    That's unusual, around here at any rate. Pubs are usually open until at least 10:00 or 11:00pm on a Sunday and many serve food into the evening.
     
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    Scotland, local asda only closes on Christmas day
     
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    It's a proper old school pub, outside toilet and local ales/ciders in bags
     
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    Nooooo, Now I'll have go out late at night and not at 3:45 to get all my mark down goodies from Tesco. Bloody Cameron, ruins everything even out of date cream horns.
     
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    Opps - juts seen another threat on the subject was started a few minutes before mine!

    Would a kindly mod merge the two?
     
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    England is (hopefully) about to catch up :) It is a archaic law that has no place in a modern society.
     
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    About time , and while they are on , can they get rid of BST as well ....
     
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    That's not strictly true. A minor tweak in the rules a few years back also allows them to do 11-5 if they wish to match the High St. Hopefully this silliness will soon be at an end though and they can open whenever they bloody want.
     
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    Despite being allowed to please themselves up here, a lot of Scottish shops also open late on a Sunday morning.
    Proper pain in the pooper.
     
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    No you won't, you will see contracts changed to include Sunday as a normal working day with the premium removed, don't like it find another job.
     
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    Throughout my working life, in retail and in other sectors the majority of people I've met would not work a Sunday if it was paid as a normal working day.
     
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    Has this happened in Scotland?
     

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