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Eltax Matrix Speakers Equivalent?

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Kootuu, Nov 19, 2003.

  1. Kootuu

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    Hi,

    I found the Matrix set of speakers on the Eltax web site and thought, great, they look good and the stats seem ok. Off I went to Richer Sounds, only to find they don't sell them.

    Now I could get them from QED-UK, try them, then return them. However, I would rather get them from RS as I could go to the shop and not faf about with all that delivery etc.

    But, I would buy them from QED if I could actually find a review or something that said these speakers were worthy, ok for low budget set up, but I can't find any reviews anywhere.

    Has anyone heard these speakers in action? I think they are £135 from QED-UK so I would be looking at a similar price range for an equivalent to them. Would have to be silver though.

    I've already got an Eltax A10 Sub so I don't need a sub. Anyone know what QED-UK are like with returns?

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
  2. Kootuu

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    Nobody heard these guys? What are eltax speakers like in general?

    I'm very happy with my Eltax sub but just because they make nice subs doesn't mean they make nice speakers right?
     
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    My best mate and I have both got Eltax speakers. Mine are high end his are from the lower ranges. We are both happy with the sound of them. What Hi-fi rate some of the speakers highly. There are quite a lot of happy eltax owners in this forum.:)
     
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    They just look so nice I want them NOW! :D

    Well, I was hoping somebody would let me know what they thought of Eltax speakers and you have, thankfully it's a positive opinion :)

    Have you heard his speakers? I've heard the lower end Eltax speakers are not so great, but then would lower end anything be that great?

    Obviously if you have high end stuff it won't compare, but if you compared all of the low end equipment would it be nearly the same?
     
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    His sound pretty good to me, bit too much bass though. Don't forget the upper ranges of Eltax are still quite low cost copared to some makes. I picked up my set for £60 on this forum. The same models are going for £250 on ebay this week.:eek:
     
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    £60? :eek: :smashin:

    What set have you get exactly?

    I think the Matrix set are £130 so, I would say they would be the low end ones yea?
     
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    Eltax L.R 6.5 floor standers, for front duty. The other speakers are paradigm and tannoy.:)

    I wish I had only payed £60 for all 6.:D
     
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    yeah, I've got the symphony 6.2, can't really complain, check out some pics within this forum in 'general chat', and the thread called 'my kit'
     
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    ah... :D oops...

    Still eh... :)
     
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    Those are some big speakers babble, you using a sub with those or not?
     
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    yeah, - see my signature...I only paid 50 notes for it (2nd hand from a guy in this forum), the eltax a12r - goes down to about 32htz, comes with remote control...I don't think it'll compare with the big boys, but you get what you pay for...
     
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    update, I've just checked Eltax website (www.eltax.com) and they say -
    System Bass reflex
    Sinus Max power 250W
    Frequency range +/- 4 dB 30-170Hz
    Subwoofer 300mm downfiring
    Crossover Frequency 50-170Hz adjustable by remote
    Phase Changer Yes
    Volume control Adjustable by remote
    Subwoofer RCA line-in Yes
    Speaker input terminals Left, Right clip
    Speaker outputs Left, Right clip
    Mains voltage 230-240V / 50-60Hz
    Power consumption 430 Watt
    Power consumption stby. <1W
    On / off automatic (stby.) Yes
    Dimensions (HxWxD) 400 x 400 x 400mm
    Weight 19.3Kg
    Accessories 1 x 2m RCA
     
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    I've got an Eltax A10.2

    What exactly does the Crossover Frequency do to the sound? I've played around slightly, haven't noticed anything though? Not sure what I am listening out for mind...

    The frequency range on mine is:

    35-170Hz

    What's that mean then? Is the lower number how deep the sound goes?

    As I've only just got it (literally two days ago) I've noticed it has connections for the surround speakers? What is the thinking behind this?
     
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    hi, ok, I'm not an expert on the terminolgy - but...
    to an extent it will depend of what AV amp you have too, mine is a yamaha which sets thre crossover at 90Hz...meaning that any bass below that frequncy will be transfered to the sub-woofer...some other AV amps allow you to change the crossover rate...so, whateve the cutover rate you have setup on your amp, make sure its the same on the sub...
    and yeah, the lower the frequency number, the lower the bass....you don't want that too loud either, or it'll get distorted, mines normally at 8-9 o'clock...and at 90Hz...

    my floor standers can go down to 30Hz too (as most other floorstanders, I imagine...), but AV amps use this crossover feature to send any signals below 90Hz to the sub...

    is that correct guys.?:cool:
     
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    Darth

    The idea is that you get seamless integration between the main speakers and the sub. I guess that having different speakers handling the same frquencies will cause problems. So the sub handles all frequencies below a certain figure (say 80Hz) and the main speakers handle all the frequencies above this figure.

    My cheapie receiver has no crossover setting so I set my front speakers to small on the receiver, which has basically a similar effect.

    I have the same fronts as Mylo and a Servo 15 sub. This goes down to (I think) around 19Hz :devil:

    Which in the real world means it literally moves the furniture.

    Chris
     
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    :D

    Oh right that's certainly cleared that up for me, thank you! :)

    I'm thinking of getting a Yamaha Amp(don't have an amp yet). Are all yamaha's set to 90Hz as the crossover? Can this be changed?

    One last thing, I've been on the Eltax website and did a search for the Matrix speakers, looking at the technical specs it looks like ONLY the centre speaker is shielded.

    Now, I don't have a lot of room so these fronts are going DIRECTLY next to my TV. I'm assuming this will cause problems if they are not shielded?
     
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    Yup. Absolute no-no to put unshielded speakers next to your TV. Will mess it up big time. Not sure what the minimum distance would be. May depend on the size of the speakers and the strength of the magnets in them.

    If they are a foot and a half away from the TV each side I think you'd be ok.

    Besides if your speakers are so close you'll lose the surround effect as there will be no separation of the sound.

    Chris
     
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    Well it's still gotta be better than TV sound :D

    Erm, what's the minimum from the tv you think they should be then? For seperation to occur.
     
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    Couldn't say what the safesy distance is.

    But when you get the speakers you can see the effect straight away if the speakers is too close to the screen. The screen colours change dramatically due to the pulling effect of the magnet.

    Move the speaker away till the effect disappears and then maybe a bit more to be on the safe side.

    Bigger speakers with bigger magnets will have a greater effect on a TV.

    And yes the sound will be far better than the crappy speakers in most TVs. You gotta start somewhere :D . I remember the 1st time I plugged a Nicam VCR into my old Hi-Fi and watched Jurassic Park. It was a revelation at the time.

    Chris
     

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