1. Join Now

    AVForums.com uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Eltax HT2 Bipolar from Richer Sounds... Any good for Rear-rear?

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by kenlong69, Jun 8, 2003.

  1. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    Hey all,

    I'm considering getting some bi-poles for my rear-rear speakers in mt 7.1 setup. I am currently using a pair of Paradigm Titan bookshelf speakers. They are awsome sounding book shelf speakers but I think my setupo requires bi-poles.

    The problem is that my room is not that wide so the rear-rear speakers are flush to the wall and about 1 foot behind the listening area (and 2 feet above).

    Would I get a better sound from Bi-poles rather than the bookshelf Titans?

    If so doe sanyone know if the Eltax HT2 BPs are any good for £50? Basically that's all I can afford realistically for now. OR is there a better set I could pick up used say in the Classified section?

    Cheers,
    Ken
     
  2. Ian J

    Ian J
    Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2001
    Messages:
    25,529
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Ratings:
    +4,906
    Two feet away from the listening position is very close for direct radiating speakers and bipoles may be the answer, as they are in my room in similar circumstances.

    There is a thread on the Eltax bipole rears from a couple of weeks ago which was mainly positive. These speakers were a What Hifi five star Best Buy a couple of years ago at £150 so at the current price of £50 they are a veritable bargain.
     
  3. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    Cheers Ian... I thought Eltax were a good buy... BUT... I read a post recently where someone said something along the lines of " I'm stuck with these crap Eltax Bi-poles yadda yadda yadda".

    I just wanted to see if anyone thought they were good, especially for the money!

    Cheers,
    Ken
     
  4. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    Nothing crap about these particular speakers and they aren't half bad as stereo speakers let alone on surround duty!!
    I have them in there Liberty Series beech effect finish so maybe biased :blush:
     
  5. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    Cheers Zone! Are the HT and Liberty series essentially the same but just a different colour? All my spakers are black so I would prefer the HT2s!

    Ken
     
  6. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    As far as I'm aware yes the differences are purely cosmetic!
    You mentioned you are wanting to use the Eltax as rear/rears in a 7.1 system what will you be using for rear left and right?
    I notice you don't have much space behind the seating position so presumably you'll move the Titans to side duty?
     
  7. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    By the way Ian is "Super Moderator" an official title :D
     
  8. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    I like the title Ian!

    I'm using KEF TDM34DS for my right/left surround at the moment. They are sitting atop Atacama Nexus 10 stands filled with sand. Obviously not quite high enough but I don't have the option to mount them on the walls. I'm building some blocks that the stands will sit on and add an extra 1 - 1 1/2 feet in height.

    I also use TDM23Fs and TDM23C for my front duties with a Velodyne VX10 sub.

    Would the eltax be sufficient with this setup? Considering the pAradigms are OK but I'm not getting the right 'feel' with the rear-rears as they are too close to the listening area.

    Ken
     
  9. nathan_silly

    nathan_silly
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    You've got a good setup there, why not go for the Kef TDM34 THX rears? and get a better sub- IMO the VX-10 is much lower quality sub, compared to the rest of your setup, I would have gone for the CHT-10/15.
     
  10. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    Can't comment on the Kefs as I've never heard them.
    The plus side with speakers for rear duty is they don't have to be of the same make/timbre etc as the fronts/centre.
    Bipolar/Dipolar are probably better used on the side walls utilising reflected surfaces to diffuse the sound.
    I'm in a similar boat to you as not being able to use side walls for mounting so mine are high up on the back wall, which the settee backs onto and sound very good to me in my comparitively small room!
     
  11. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    Oh god I mentioned diffuse with Bipolar....Sorry Nathan :p
     
  12. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    hehe, cheers Nathan! Unfortunately my budget is quite small! I got the KEFs at an absolute bargain from these forums! So the VX-10 was my obvious choice for a sub. It sounds pretty damn good as I have a Behringer BFD to counteract the room boom in my front room. My room is tiny and I have a few chicks living downstairs who HATE bass!!! Another set of TDM34s for rear-reas would be a bit too pricy for me as I'd also have to buy another ste of stands!!!

    Zone -
    Yeah that's basically why I made this post to find out if the Eltax would be OK with my setup.

    Ken
     
  13. Steve.EX

    Steve.EX
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2001
    Messages:
    3,096
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    68
    Ratings:
    +69
    Ken.

    Am i right in assuming you use the big Pioneer amp?
    THX and the newly revised THX2 specification would recommend that you use mono-poles for surround backs.
    If you are a user of THX2 it may well be preferable to opt for mono-pole backs.
    Certainly i used to use 2 pairs of TDM34's but have recently changed to mono-pole backs, although this was an up-grade rather than a THX requirement thing.
    I retain a pair of 34's for side surround duties and am quite happy with the overall performance.
    The kef Q8's may or may not be better suited to these requirements and can normally be had for around 120.00.


    Steve.
     
  14. Hawklord

    Hawklord
    Well-known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2003
    Messages:
    3,424
    Products Owned:
    1
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    106
    Location:
    Aldershot, Hampshire
    Ratings:
    +257
    that would be hear say then........:D
     
  15. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    Steve.ex - If that's the case then I'd be better off with my current Paradigms then yes?

    The problem I have is that my rear-rear speakers are directly behind the listening position and only about a foot away! Seen here (on the last picture down)

    I would have thought that bi-poles would provide the best sound in this situation.

    I'm using a THX Select Pioneer amp VSX-859RDS.

    Ken
     
  16. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    Ken
    I think your really struggling there m8 :D
    Personally I would go with the Bipoles only in the space you have there, high up behind you, then maybe experiment with the Kefs in different positions..
    Ideally people with 7.1 set ups have a bit more space than you behind the seating position!
    PS Get rid of the baseball cap on the back of the blue sofa, does nothing for the asthetics ;)

    All the best bud :smashin:
     
  17. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    Yeah I know! My room is not very wide! I can possibly mount the Eltax on the wall using 2 small hooks...

    Unfortunately I have nowhere esle to put the KEF rears... like I said I'm building some blocks to bring the stands higher.

    Oh yeah ... the hat is providing some much needed sound obsorption! :)

    Ken
     
  18. Zone

    Zone
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,526
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    166
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Ratings:
    +2,114
    I thought as much m8 :smashin:
     
  19. roadtorode

    roadtorode
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    I have been using a pair of these black HT2s for a year now, and been quite happy with them - unfortunately, they're now up for sale as the wife has convinced me to go for child-friendly, wall mounted satellites instead of standmounts.... :-(
     
  20. kenlong69

    kenlong69
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2002
    Messages:
    505
    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    21
    Location:
    Doha
    Ratings:
    +6
    raod - I know this isn't the forums but how much are you selling them for?

    Ken
     
  21. roadtorode

    roadtorode
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    I've reverted to email !
     
  22. roadtorode

    roadtorode
    Guest

    Products Owned:
    0
    Products Wanted:
    0
    Ratings:
    +0
    Note that the Eltax speakers have a small 'keyhole' style fitting on the back to facilitate simple wall hanging, although I have main on tall stands.
     

Share This Page

Loading...