GunRunner
Established Member
I have just started scouring the net and reading all about video editing 4k because I have recently purchased a Sony DSC-RX100 mkIV that records 4k using the XAVC S 4K file format with the recording settings of 25p@100M or 25p@60M. See the following Sony link....
Sony RX100 IV - The Speed Master with memory-attached 1.0-type stacked CMOS sensor
The quality of the shots or should I say short clips (maximum 4 minutes long) is outstanding and believe it or not, is very comparable (when viewed on my home set up) to that produced by 4k (UHD) cameras on SKY Sports and also 4k (UHD) films played back from my Panasonic UHD 4k blue ray player. My setup as follows:
a. SKY Q full package.
b. Panasonic UB900 (4k UHD) Blue Ray Player
Feeding into a....
c. Denon AVR-X2200W (4k UHD) Receiver
Displaying onto....
d. Panasonic 65DX902B (4k UHD) Television
e. I have the latest HDMI cable that I plug into the outlet HDMI port on the Sony DSC-RX100 MK IV and then into the Auxiliary Port on the Denon AX-2200W Receiver. As stated above the quality shown on the Panasonic UHD is comparable to the other 4k UHD inputs.
The only problem is that in this direct display configuration as I call it, I am only watching unedited 4k clips being played back by the camera. This is not ideal and I would like to shorten/edit the clips to produce video home movies of say up to 15 minutes long. Nothing fancy, just slicing clips (basic editing) and joining them to together.
The leads me onto several questions that could lead me to my final solution. They are as follows:
Question 1. I am looking for members recommendations for a software solution (just basic with fade in/out) to edit (slice) these clips and produce a longish video to show on my TV. Anybody with experience with user level of this 4k software please post.
I have an older but still powerful PC that I can use to do this work. I do not mind upgrading it.
The specification is as follows:
Monitor 24" BenQ 241W (now 8 years old and due upgrade)
Antec 900 Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
Corsair HX 1000w ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
Gigabyte EX58-UD5 Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Intel Core i7 920 2.66 Ghz Nehalem 1366 (I am now running it at 3.8 Ghz) with Akasa Nero air cooler.
G Skill 6GB NQ PC3-10666C9 1333MHz (3x2GB Triple Channel DDR3 (F3-10666CL9T-6GBNQ) RAM
nVidia KA2 GTX 460 1024mb video graphics card
DVD RAM Rewriter
Samsung EVO 850 SSD 500GB
Seagate 2 TB HD
Windows 7 pro X 64 (Full version)
RealTek High Def Audio
After asking on various enthusiast PC forums about upgrade scenarios, I get some good and some not so good responses such as increase the Hard Drive capacity to change only the processor to a Xeon W3690 Hexacore and increase the RAM. Each answer always seems plausible and in some cases would come to above £200 but not one of the subscribers is actually editing 4k clips I am producing on my camera. Please note. I do not have a budget as such, but would pay the appropriate cost to get to my final solution.
I have seen in various places including this forum that the general consensus is that you need a very high quality very fast video card to the latest standard (perhaps over £200) and a very fast multi-core CPU.
I have read recently that Intel have released Kaby Lake processors that do have HEVC/H.265 4k hardware support embedded and they have their own graphics CPU. The one that comes to mind is the i7-7567U with the Iris Plus 650 GPU. There is also the i5-7287U and i5-7267U with the Iris Plus 650.
Links....
Intel Announces 7th Gen Kaby Lake: 14nm PLUS, Six Notebook SKUs, Desktop coming in January
Intel's Kaby Lake chip is a must-have for 4K video fiends
Intel’s new Kaby Lake Core CPUs can breeze through 4K graphics in notebooks -
It is a bit early to ask if anyone has a desktop PC or workstation with the Kaby Lake CPU processor installed.
Question 2. Perhaps more hypothetical and to anyone who actually edits HEVC/H.265 4k Video clips on another lower standard PC or workstation, would there be a very large improvement going to newer motherboard standard and investing in the newer Kaby Lake processor, or are we talking about drinking a cup of coffee whilst the system is doing the work. Any inputs would be gratefully appreciated and I would consider this a brainstorming thread.
Thanks for reading.
Sony RX100 IV - The Speed Master with memory-attached 1.0-type stacked CMOS sensor
The quality of the shots or should I say short clips (maximum 4 minutes long) is outstanding and believe it or not, is very comparable (when viewed on my home set up) to that produced by 4k (UHD) cameras on SKY Sports and also 4k (UHD) films played back from my Panasonic UHD 4k blue ray player. My setup as follows:
a. SKY Q full package.
b. Panasonic UB900 (4k UHD) Blue Ray Player
Feeding into a....
c. Denon AVR-X2200W (4k UHD) Receiver
Displaying onto....
d. Panasonic 65DX902B (4k UHD) Television
e. I have the latest HDMI cable that I plug into the outlet HDMI port on the Sony DSC-RX100 MK IV and then into the Auxiliary Port on the Denon AX-2200W Receiver. As stated above the quality shown on the Panasonic UHD is comparable to the other 4k UHD inputs.
The only problem is that in this direct display configuration as I call it, I am only watching unedited 4k clips being played back by the camera. This is not ideal and I would like to shorten/edit the clips to produce video home movies of say up to 15 minutes long. Nothing fancy, just slicing clips (basic editing) and joining them to together.
The leads me onto several questions that could lead me to my final solution. They are as follows:
Question 1. I am looking for members recommendations for a software solution (just basic with fade in/out) to edit (slice) these clips and produce a longish video to show on my TV. Anybody with experience with user level of this 4k software please post.
I have an older but still powerful PC that I can use to do this work. I do not mind upgrading it.
The specification is as follows:
Monitor 24" BenQ 241W (now 8 years old and due upgrade)
Antec 900 Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case
Corsair HX 1000w ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant Power Supply
Gigabyte EX58-UD5 Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard
Intel Core i7 920 2.66 Ghz Nehalem 1366 (I am now running it at 3.8 Ghz) with Akasa Nero air cooler.
G Skill 6GB NQ PC3-10666C9 1333MHz (3x2GB Triple Channel DDR3 (F3-10666CL9T-6GBNQ) RAM
nVidia KA2 GTX 460 1024mb video graphics card
DVD RAM Rewriter
Samsung EVO 850 SSD 500GB
Seagate 2 TB HD
Windows 7 pro X 64 (Full version)
RealTek High Def Audio
After asking on various enthusiast PC forums about upgrade scenarios, I get some good and some not so good responses such as increase the Hard Drive capacity to change only the processor to a Xeon W3690 Hexacore and increase the RAM. Each answer always seems plausible and in some cases would come to above £200 but not one of the subscribers is actually editing 4k clips I am producing on my camera. Please note. I do not have a budget as such, but would pay the appropriate cost to get to my final solution.
I have seen in various places including this forum that the general consensus is that you need a very high quality very fast video card to the latest standard (perhaps over £200) and a very fast multi-core CPU.
I have read recently that Intel have released Kaby Lake processors that do have HEVC/H.265 4k hardware support embedded and they have their own graphics CPU. The one that comes to mind is the i7-7567U with the Iris Plus 650 GPU. There is also the i5-7287U and i5-7267U with the Iris Plus 650.
Links....
Intel Announces 7th Gen Kaby Lake: 14nm PLUS, Six Notebook SKUs, Desktop coming in January
Intel's Kaby Lake chip is a must-have for 4K video fiends
Intel’s new Kaby Lake Core CPUs can breeze through 4K graphics in notebooks -
It is a bit early to ask if anyone has a desktop PC or workstation with the Kaby Lake CPU processor installed.
Question 2. Perhaps more hypothetical and to anyone who actually edits HEVC/H.265 4k Video clips on another lower standard PC or workstation, would there be a very large improvement going to newer motherboard standard and investing in the newer Kaby Lake processor, or are we talking about drinking a cup of coffee whilst the system is doing the work. Any inputs would be gratefully appreciated and I would consider this a brainstorming thread.
Thanks for reading.