I bought a Panasonic E85 a couple of weeks ago, and I'm still *far* from having it installed satisfactorily in my system. So are I've tried two completely different ways of connecting it all up, but there are still problems. Last night I drew a connection diagram and just sat staring at it wondering what to do next. The first problem I ran into was that when the E85 is switched on its output went to my Freeview box and out of the Freeview box's outputs, so I couldn't watch or listen to Freeview when the E85 was on for any reason, such as dubbing HDD to DVD. To fix that I bought a SCART switch to be able to isolate the E85 when I need to. The SCART switch has Copy buttons, such as AV1>AV2, but when I press one of these, for instance to copy from Freeview to HDD, nothing happens, no input goes into the E85. I still haven't figured that one out. Anyway that's background. I'm posting this because another bizarre problem I've run into. You can use the E85 as a DVD player when it is on timer standbye to do a recording to HDD. I was watching a DVD the other evening, and had the E85 set to record a film from BBC4. I have a phono feed from the E85 to my amplifier. Imagine my surprise when the the timer started the recording and the soundtrack of the film on BBC4 started coming out of my speakers mixed with the soundtrack of the DVD I was watching, but at a relatively much higher level, making my speakers almost fall of their stands and nearly giving me a heart-attack. I've already come to the conclusion that SCARTs are a nightmare, what with not knowing exactly what they do, worrying about cutting the cable on pins 8 and 19, etc, etc. and I was wondering whether it would be possible to connect all my stuff together avoiding the SCARTs entirely. So for me the bad news is that on the E85 the phonos are a nightmare to!