why would I say so if not the case?While I agree with everything you say, stating that the Sony 760 is superior to an OLED other than size is a little rich
The Sony A1 is no longer the standard either, considering the A1 lacks the internal tone mapping and puts the burden on the source device.While I agree with everything you say, stating that the Sony 760 is superior to an OLED other than size is a little rich
I genuinely haven’t seen either a Sony or JVC with HDR to give an opinion how good each look, I imagine the JVC will best everything else but have watched stuff on my Epson and I reckon it looked surprisingly good.
Im only talking about dynamic capabilities here, then the hole DTM is a chapter all by itself, so lets just say we use Mad Vr on all of them, and use them on screen sizes that matsch each projectors lightoutput capabilities. HDR = High Dynamic Range, so the higher dynamic range on the projector the better. SONY and JVC are the only real 4K projectors, so a + as such the older JVC 1080P models without Eshift have a native contrast around 15000:1 so something like a old JVC X3 would come between the current 4K models and the Sony models.
Maybe in misunderstanding your comment, are you suggesting because neither myself or @mb3195 received a calibration report that they weren’t professionally calibrated or are you suggesting the @Gordon @ Convergent AV isn’t a professional calibrator.
All professional calibrators i know off will make a calibration report when finished with before and after measurements on all presets, thats also a good way tracking changes next time you get your projector recalibrated, like with sony you will like to know how much the contrast has degraded, and with JVC if gamma has dropped, and lightoutput/ lamp life.
That is not a suggestion its a general thing, which is why i posted someone, and not anyone specifik, anyway in your case im sure you can just send him a email with your invoice nr. requesting your calibration report, and im sure he will email it to you, it takes 5 min to open up the program and generate the report and email it.I can’t speak for @mb3195 but this was my first professional calibration so I didn’t ask for such a thing. All I know is several hours were spend and the end results were spectacular on both SDR and HDR.
Also very odd comment to suggest something underhand was being conducted between us and Gordon which was why we didn’t get a report.
Don’t get me wrong I will help anyone whenever I can but Gordon is a professional calibrator and it’s his business which he earns an income from so I do not feel it would be right sharing such a thing.
This is not about your calibrator, no matter who it is, im not the one who have bought a pro calibration and has no report to show for it, or to use as a reference next time you need a calibration or sell the projector, you need to figure that out with your calibrator if you want one.
There a HUGH difference between saying it’s good practice at you suggested and something underhanded has taken place as Strids has suggested, frankly I was shocked by this.
Ill try explain AGAIN, i did not suggest anything had taken place, just a example why SOMEONE might not get a report. If i have shocked you im sorry, hope you will excuse my poor english skills and get unshocked, otherwise your welcome to sende me a PM ill ill try my best to comfort you.
thanks for sharing what you are with your optoma.... is the vertex helping you with non DV content ? wondering if you have compared the dynamic tone mapping capabilities of the vertex using DV off the disc player as well to compare how it goes with the static tone mapping of the pana 420 ? have you considered updating the pana 420 to say 820 thats DV capable and trying the vertex on that as well and also forcing for non DV material (if thats possible ?)
I purchased a Sony x700 for DV and tried to do some comparisons with the S&M disc with HDR and DV content. It was far from scientific but there was not a big difference with my setup between HDR10 on the Panasonic compared to DV on the Sony. There was however a massive difference with non DV HDR10 on the Sony to the Panasonic. The Panasonic was way better with the Sony clipping the horse snow scene badly at anything higher than 1000nit mastering. I mainly was looking at that scene for clipping so it's not really testing scene to scene variation.
thank you aceVPD, sounds like you have had opportunity to explore things quite extensively and thank you for sharing your learning's and findings. Most interesting. Looks certainly like you have found something that works well with the player and its tone mapping vs able TV and using the vertex. Good indeed have something that works well for you between all this. Quite right it can get to the point when tweaking takes over and find better to stop and smell the roses
Kool, I admit I've only owned Panasonic and LG OLEDs so I can't offer a hands on opinion on this one.
Yes DTM is literally a savior for projectors, without it they would be left for dead in the age of HDR. Just watched the new 4K Back to the Future movies they look like new movies.
I agree with this pretty much except my current EPSON looks way better with native HDR than my old JVC X9500 did due to the brightness difference despite the enormous difference in contrast. That is of course with high APL scenes only.
The internal tone mapping on the Epson is quite good and much better than the X series from JVC.
