DVR recorder with dual tuner & HDMI?

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  1. 400bhp

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    As the title says.

    Is there one available with both of the above?

    If I have a built in tuner into my TV do I need a dual tuner to record one channel & watch another?

    Thanks
     
  2. Gavtech

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    You need to be clear here whether you mean a DVDR or a generic Digital video Recorder..

    There are no DVDR's available with twin digital tuners.

    PVR's usually have twin tuners... but do not normally have HDMI [ HD will be an exception ]

    If you have a digital tuner in your TV, you only need a recording device with a single digital tuner to be able to watch one / record another simultaneously.
     
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    Apologies I meand DVD Recorder.:)

    Thank you for the info regarding digital tuner.

    So how does the single freeview tuner in the DVD Recorder work when there is a freeview tuner in the TV? I guess my question is which has priority? e.g you would use the tv freeview tuner to watch and use the freeview tuner in the DVD recorder to record? And both running off a single aerial connection?


    So I guess I am best looking at the Panny 77 or 87 model then?
     
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    if you have a digital tuner built into your tv, then that's good. if you buy a dvd recorder with a hard disc ridve and freeview built in, then that's good too.

    you can use the dvd recorder to record something off it's own freeview tuner (onto it's HDD, then you can edit out the adverts etc.) while you watch another freeview channel from the tv's digital tuner.

    the aerial will go from your wall, into your tv, then an RF cable will go from the RF out connection on the tv and into the aerial in connection on the dvd recorder. so you've connected both digital tuners with 1 aerial.

    or you could do it the other way, wall aerial into the recorder, then RF lead to the tv.

    i don't know which would give the better signal quality, you might want to try it out both ways.

    or, you might be able to put a splitter in the wall aerial socket, and put a direct aerial wire to each aerial connection, 1 in the tv, the other in the recorder, so you don't have to loop them together with an RF lead. i think the splitter option will reduce signal strength/quality though, so looping them with each other will probably be the best option.

    you are correct with this sentence:

    "you would use the tv freeview tuner to watch and use the freeview tuner in the DVD recorder to record? And both running off a single aerial connection?"

    i have the Panasonic EX77 and it's fantastic. but beware, it won't play any DivX encoded material. Sony do a similar one to the EX77 (the 870) and it does play DivX stuff.

    the Pana EX87 has a 250GB HDD, and Sony also do a 250GB version, the 970. but the Sonys don't record to RAM discs, but the Panasonics do.

    the EX77 and EX87, and the Sony 870 and 970 are available in both black and silver, the black ones are usually cheaper than the silver ones, in case you want to save a bit of money and if a black unit will match your other devices.
     
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    Thanks

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    What do you mean by RAM disks? But do they play RAM disks?
     
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    RAM disks are playable on all Panasonic DVDR's.
    They have some great benefits but their small limitations may mean they are not always the disk of choice depending on how you use your machine and watch / share programmes.

    These are the features:

    Act and behave just like a hard disc.

    Allow Chase play.

    Recordings can be bounced between RAM's and hard disk endlessly at high speed and without loss.

    Can be used to recombine split titles into a single title.

    Chapters can be added at any time.

    Edited space is regained.

    Reputedly longer life.

    The downside is their relative expense compared to other disk types and the lack of general compatibility with other machines.


    It is usually a good idea to keep some in stock for specialist applications, even if you do not routinely use them for archiving.
     
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    yeah as Gav said, think of them as harddiscs, so you can juggle data around on them unlike a normal dvd.

    it's probably not going to be much use to you if the dvd recorder you buy has it's own harddisc anyway (as you can edit the programmes on its hdd), so don't think of RAM-recordability as a deal-breaker when choosing a recorder.

    most (if not all) recorders/players will play RAM discs because once written to and finalised, they behave just like normal DVDs. it's in the editing process in which they are different to normal recordable DVDs.
     
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    Thanks.

    I have no interest in RAM disks then.

    Looks like the Sony one is a better bet for me and I hear it can be made multiregion. If so (and it has 1080 res) then it is a perfect fit.
     
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    I'm not sure how you have arrived at that conclusion?

    The Panasonic can also be Multiregion and similarly has 1080P output.
     
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    From the information given, and based on nothing else, the Sony appears to have the Panny stuff + DivX?
     
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    Ah - OK - I didn't realise you wanted DivX.
     
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    i was going to buy the sony 870 as i have a sony crt tv (which is great) but after reading all the problems people are having with that model i have now come to the conclusion that the panasonic eh77 is obviously the safer bet so its the panasonic for me unless anyone can tell me of a better or more reliable dvd hdd recorder
     
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    I have a question regarding this topic. I want to be able to record two shows at the same time. I was told I would need a DVD recorder with a dual tuner but it seems that such a device is not available. What can I do?

    P.S I have a flatscreen HDTV with a digital tuner but no video output.

    Thanks for your time,
    Leah W.
     
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    Welcome to the forum Leah W


    Have you considered a PVR?

    PVR's typically have twin tuners and allow the recording of two digital channels simultaneously.
    You can usually watch a recording at the same time.

    Consider the Humax or Topfield.
     
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    Thank you very much.

    That was very helpful. I had never heard of PVRs before. I don't necessarily need all of those features. I just need to be able to record multiple shows at once and to also be able to watch shows while it is recording. I know you mentioned that the topfield and humax brands are good, but is that because it has more features than the other brands available or because of the brand quality? I am trying to figure out which one is best for what I plan to use it for and the people at Fry's Electronics were less than helpful if you know what I mean.

    Thanks for your time,
    Leah
     
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    Hi Leah

    The main reason Topfield and Humax are highly rated is that they produce the most reliable machines.

    Both have occasianal faults but these are usually fixed by a firmware update.

    They also both have outstanding user forums. Where help is quickly available. I have the Topfield 5800 and made my purchase after reading many threads about each on their user forums.

    Hope that helps.
     

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