OK - didn't think I'd ever need to convert these files, since I just thought I'd only ever watch them on my media centre. But, I now need to. I've tried all the ones at the green button to no avail. I downloaded dcut - that didn't work at all. The DVR-MPEG program is controlled by a command prompt (way too scary!) and DVR edit I liked except when I chose the DVR to MPG convert option it said "option not implemented in this release" or something like that. Does anyone know any good programs - preferably free, but also commercial?