I've recently been researching creating video cd's for legitimate purposes. I discovered Nero can burn VCDs onto CDR from a collection of still jpegs, so I've scanned loads of old photos, burned the VCD and it plays a slideshow on my Pioneer 606 DVD. Cool, if a little sad (watch out, Kodak might sue me) Anyway, while looking for VCD info, I discovered a lot of material about copying DVDs. The standard piracy argument has always been, DVD writing is prohibitively expensive, so it won't happen. But what these guys are doing is ripping the data streams off a DVD (with DeCSS-derived tools), and then either creating mpeg1 VCDs, mpeg4 DivX CDs, or something they call mini-DVD, which I think is mpeg2 on a CDR (or is that SuperVCD, I dunno) Most of these formats only play on a PC. At the moment the process seems very long and complex, but they are doing some very intricate things. Some of the divx ones have menus, switchable commentary tracks and subtitles. My question is, what impact, if any, do you think these developments will have on our hobby? If your immediate answer is, "none", then I can tell you that most of the R1 DVD stalls at Bowlers (a computer fair in Manchester) don't sell DVDs any more, just these VCD variants. These pirated copies are entering the food chain. What do you think? Can we do anything about it? Should we?