When is some manufacturer going to take the plunge and release a machine with a digital tuner? At the moment we are all being forced to buy models that will become obsolete in a few years time. My current VCR (Panny S-VHS) has lasted 12 years. The current DVD recorders will not be able to last that long. Admittedly, it will still be possible to record from a digital box but it's not nearly as convenient as recording from an in-built tuner.