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DVD-R or +R?

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by RMCF, Mar 3, 2005.

  1. RMCF

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    Quick question - which format is most compatible with standard DVD players in the market?
     
  2. DVD-RAM

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    DVD-R, also DVD-R recorders seem to be more reliable.
     
  3. musukebba

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    Are there any -R only recorders still being sold?
     
  4. ibrox50

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    have to disagree in my experience +r is the better one ,any backups i do play on any dvd player but with -r there can be some probs
     
  5. Rasczak

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    Generally speaking DVD-R is the most compatible - although, as always, it depends upon your recorder/burner, the make/brand/speed of media and the machine you want to play the disc on - refer to the online database of all DVD players/recorders where DVDR compatibility is listed for each format based on the results of what works/what doesn't on all these players: http://www.videohelp.com/dvd.

    Yes - as I'm sure you're aware: Toshiba, JVC, Samsung, Pioneer, Bush and Hitachi for example. Don't troll threads musukebba - useful contributions only please!

    There is no doubt that the future is multi-format though: market forces are pushing all producers to adopt this posture - including you beloved Philips who, as we know, were effectively forced to adopt DVD-R on their DVD burners in order to sell them ;) Odds are we will see DVD-R support added to Philips upper end set-top DVD recorders soon.
     
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    Spare us the second guessing and moderator-style condescensions. Surprisingly enough for some people, I don't always know everything, which is why a genuine question was asked.

    Hmmm... let's see - can you afford just to quote manufacturers when the majority of the recorders made by the inclusive list above, eg Toshiba (9/11), JVC (9/9), Samsung (5/5) also write to DVD-RAM?
    So this far more pro-'plus' answer deserves the reply: err... none.
    Just because you continue to repeat something that phelings fed to you, despite your protestations, doesn't make it any more credible. Do you really have to be this obtuse? You eventually made the point that I was seeking - that there are comparatively few <minus> format only recorders on the market. No need to quote the way-off-topic PC burner market really.
     
  7. Rasczak

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    Troll. Ignore...
     
  8. musukebba

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    Strange how the appropriate use of one letter could have had us in complete agreement.

    -(V)R.
     
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    May I dare return to the original question in this post ?

    As it stands today, +/- issues are not what they used to be, so choosing a machine should be more about its features and quality than its format. Finalised +/- discs are generally equally as compatible, although editing capabilities on + can be viewed as limited.
    If you are new to DVD recording and have no existing blank disc stocks, then the world is your oyster.
    Look at Pioneer and Panasonic machines first of all and go from there.
     
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    I thought I'd read that something like 89% of "all" (whatever that means) players could be expected to playback DVD-R while the figure for DVD+R was just a couple of percent short of this but the bottom line is that it's probably too close to call though there's always those who argue (vociferously) in favour of one or the other but it's never really clear why this happens!

    Cliff
     
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    The most objective evidence I have seen is similar, with -R discs ahead of +R discs by a few percentage points.

    People's experiences are different because of other uncontrolled and confounding factors such as DVD disc quality, method of burning, age of DVD player, firmware version etc. Thus each person's view on format compatibility is strongly and subjectively coloured by their personal findings.
     
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    I use both, no problems with either, +r media slightly more expensive than -r media
     
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    musukebba...whats with the sarcasm :mad:
     
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    I hadn't intended to use sarcasm at all. Apologies if it seems I have.

    Which bit was it that was that way? If you mean your comment about +R earlier, then I was using it to ask Rasczak why he felt the need to tick me off, when the post from you was more strongly in favour of +R compatibility and he ignored it.

    I apologise if I offended you. I guess I should know better than to involve other peoples replies in my arguments. :suicide:
     
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    no probs mate crossed wires :)
     
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    I did not feed Rasczak any opinions about you Musuk.He is big enough to do that for himself.
    What was odd was how you scolded Rasczak for his "second guessing and moderator style condescensions" then actually did the same thing yourself in a later post.
    I think the only DVD-R/RW only machines out there are from Pioneer.At least in the quality makes I don't know of any others that do not have RAM aswell
     
  17. musukebba

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    In that case let me refresh your memory:
    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177098

    ... added after only my second only post on AV forums.

    I'd be grateful if it could be pointed out where I was condescending.

    At least we got it straight that there are only a minority of standalone recorders which offer -R only. Just think how much easier this all could have been...
     
  18. robert.hunter

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    I opted for a +R/+RW DVD recorder primarily for compatibility reasons and it is my personal experience that +R discs are indeed more compatible.

    -R discs made with my son's Sony 500 will not play on any of the four recorders/players in my house (although they will play on the computers) whereas +R discs made with the same machine play without difficulty.

    I believe that editing capabilities are superior on -R machines. However, I regard compatibility as more important.
     
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    Are his Sony discs all finalised?
    Musek,despite my earlier comments when you arrived,Rasczak can still make up his own mind.
    He certainly would never admit to being swayed by ANYTHING I said
     
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    Lets keep personal swipes out of the thread guys.Thanks.
     
  21. robert.hunter

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    In reply to phelings, yes, all the Sony discs are finalised.
     
  22. musukebba

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    http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192366&page=1&pp=15

    Seems you have more influence than you thought.

    Happy to leave it at that.
     

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