Time may be right to finally invest in a DVD-R. The main reason is gonna be as an archive dump from my Sky+. Machine of choice would appear to be the Panny EH50. I can edit stuff neatly and also achieve best library quality by optimising the recording quality relevant for the length of the prog and disc space. A lot of reviews mention Philips intention to enable 5.1 recording on all their future machines. As I'm gonna tandem any machine with my Sky+ box, this would seem to be an almost "must have" feature. So tell me people; 1/ What is the expected starting price of the next gen Philips machines? 2/ What features am I likely to lose by waiting for a Philips over a Panny? 3/ When is a choice of these machines likely to become available?