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DVD player with pal 60hz output?

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by franc, Sep 21, 2002.

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    Hi, does anyone know of a dvd player that will output a PAL 60hz signal? I imagine the best chance will be a multi-region NTSC player that does not or cannot output a true PAL signal and instead does an internal conversion. thanks

    what would the horizontal and vertical frequencies be?
     
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    Do you mean 'output PAL60 from an NTSC disc', or 'output PAL60 from a PAL disc'?

    If its the former then most do although I gather most Sony's don't. My Pioneer 505 and 737 are both capable of doing so.

    If its the latter then I have no idea why you would want this, but AFAIK, none do.
     
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    If R2 PAL dvds're encoded/decoded at PAL60 rather than PAL50, 4.1% speed up issue with your PAL & films is solved.
    Video sources dont matter but for 24fps films sources.... PAL speed up drives many people nuts. - should stay away from R2 PAL dvds.

    That - PAL60 is good point actually. I wonder why they dont do it.
     
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    thanks for the replies.

    I will explain a little further for those interested. What I have is a panasonic plasma display from japan. Using s-video output into an Iscan pro line-doubler, NTSC discs appear fine through a multi-region pioneer 717. However, PAL discs do not look as good and, although watchable, appear grainy and lack the richness and depth of the NTSC discs.

    It appears that the display must be NTSC only. I have tried hooking up my PS2 with s-video, again through the Iscan and played a game that allowed a 60hz option. The results were crisp, clear and stable as the NTSC DVDs. The same game at 50hz again showed up the apparent PAL incompatibility.

    Therefore, unable to get a DVD player in the UK to output a 60hz signal ( as far as I know), the possibility of getting a US NTSC dvd player that output a 60hs PAL signal maybe the answer.phew.

    The plasma is not a standard unit and only has an RGB PC 15hdd input that I can use, a tuner input and serial input.

    your thoughts again please! thanks
     
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    thanks for the replies.

    I will explain a little further for those interested. What I have is a panasonic plasma display from japan. Using s-video output into an Iscan pro line-doubler, NTSC discs appear fine through a multi-region pioneer 717. However, PAL discs do not look as good and, although watchable, appear grainy and lack the richness and depth of the NTSC discs.

    It appears that the display must be NTSC only. I have tried hooking up my PS2 with s-video, again through the Iscan and played a game that allowed a 60hz option. The results were crisp, clear and stable as the NTSC DVDs. The same game at 50hz again showed up the apparent PAL incompatibility.

    Therefore, unable to get a DVD player in the UK to output a 60hz signal ( as far as I know), the possibility of getting a US NTSC dvd player that output a 60hs PAL signal maybe the answer.phew.

    The plasma is not a standard unit and only has an RGB PC 15hdd input that I can use, a tuner input and serial input.

    your thoughts again please! thanks
     
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    So, you could actually use a player that outputs pure NTSC/60 from a PAL disc. Some of the cheap chinese models do this. For example, the Dansai which was available from Tesco did it.

    BUT: I believe it replayed the disc at its recorded speed ie. did not slow it down by a factor of 24/25. I never studied it closely (and it has died and been returned for a refund) but I guess it would have been dropping one frame in 25. In addition, detail was lost in the conversion from 576 lines to 480.

    Without using a reasonably good full standards converter (costing upwards of, say, £800) I don't imagine you have an option here. Cheaper converters do exist, but my guess would be that they would cause new issues (like lack of detail or motion judder) which would cause you as much grief as your existing setup does.
     
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    I think you are right nigel, about the need for a proper standards converter.

    Like the player you describe, I have a multi region Denon 2800 dvd player which can force out a NTSC signal from a pal disc. but like you say, the image does lose resolution and also appears slightly squashed vertically. very odd !

    thanks again
     
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    AFAIK (and I'm happy to be corrected) that plasma's are *standard* independent ??

    So the screen isn't PAL or NTSC specific ...

    but if the screen is a japanese model the power supply will be a 60hz will it not ?

    and will that not affect how the picture is displayed ?
     

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