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DVD player vs computer

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by jonan73, Dec 18, 2004.

  1. jonan73

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    hi!
    I'm new to this forum. I'm not a tecchie but have a home cinema system that is working OK for me. I'm having a discussion with a computer guy and need some arguments to back up my position ;)
    He is arguing that any computer with a dvd player and a DVI graphic card will give a much better picture on a projector than almost any DVD player you can buy on the market :mad: (I'm currently thinking about purchasing the denon DVD-A11). his point is that the resolution is far better and that nowadays all graphic cards have video compression/decompression stuff...
    Anyone has any comment to share with me, please?
    Thanks and have a great week-end! :)
     
  2. AML

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    I think that a a dedicated DVD player is always going to be better to play DVD's on. I have a Denon 3910 which has DVi and HDMI therefore equaling anything a PC can do.

    One thing a PC can do that DVD players can is play WMP Disks.
    But that could change in the future.
     
  3. Thunder

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    -Video: yes HTPCs are very good at producing a good quality PQ for the money. Only the very best DVD players can match em :)
    -Audio: no, most HTPCs are still bl**dy awfull when it comes to a high quality digital/ analogue audio output :laugh:
     
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    ... but I would need more argument *s* (if it is possible)
    I always thought that dedicated equipment were better, but some solid facts would help :)
    Keep them coming ;)
     
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    Another pain in the ar*e with regards to HTPCs is of course user friendliness and reliability. In general they have neither :devil:
     
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    The fact is that on the PQ side most dedicated equipment isnt better, sorry :( But on the audio side dedicated machines are far better, generally due to the stability and lack of jitter in the digital audio output :) Notice however that although I admit that HTPCs have great PQ I dont own one and wouldnt (for the time being) consider owning one :D Because although the very best HTPCs may match my Tag on video, none come near on the audio side, especially when sync linked to my AV32R :devil: And the user friendliness/reliability is a big issue for me too :)
     
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    Any scienific debate has to be based on comparative studies and I supose the key point here is what processing benchmarks you are using and pricepoint. I am no 'techie' either, but would suspect a An ATI Radeon X800XT with a price point of £300-£400 alone, coupled with something like a P4 2.8Ghz HT chipset, 512MB 400Mhz DDR SDRAM, overclocking it and a suite of encoders and decoders to boot, plus a very good sound card like the M-Audio revolution 7.1 sound card is going to wipe the floor with a DVD player at a £200 price point.

    As has been said though, musical fidelity is often compromised and a top end player with superb audio capabilities is going to be arguably better. To throw a high end HTPC together I would say you were loking at £1500 minimum. You could get a decent DVD player with musicality for that... Arcam spring to mind.

    To debate on a level playing field you should consider:
    HTPC - What processor, codecs, audio etc you are using then find a DVD with the same technology or like for like (if possible). Look at the cost differential and see what differences there are and whether the price differential gets you more or less for your money in either DVD or HTPC.
     
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    At the end of the day it all depends on what you want. They can both play DVDs, but only the PC can do more than that.

    I still think that a decent PC is going to cost more than a good DVD player, it all depends on the specs. My Denon 3910 only cost me 500 quid, but I heard they cost more in the UK.

    A good PC would cost me 2 or 3 times more than my 3910 so I would never consider buying a PC to use as a DVD player. Mind you I do have a good PC just now.
    P4 3.2ghz, 2gig memory, Nvidia 6800GT OC and a 30" LCD monitor conected by DVi. So all I would need is decent software and a Disk to watch.

    Since you are considering using a PC as a player, what software do you recomend? If I can get it Ill try it out and compare it to my denon 3910.
     
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    I use and HTPC(a UVEM),and have a Toshiba DVD player also.....from the convenience point of view,the DVD player is dead easy to use,whereas the PC does require a bit of work,but as regards PQ and versatility,the PC is way ahead.
    Sound quality,as Thunder says,is not as good,using the HCPC's own output,so I use the digital out from the PC's X-Card(DVD player hardware)and run that through the AV32R,and CD via an upsampler into the AV32R as well.

    There are actually some excellent PC soundcards available,and those from Lynx will rival most offboard DAC's,but as regards 5/7 channel capable decoder cards....the choice is limited,and I'll stay with the TAG for that.

    I'm sure that with the weight of Microsoft and Sony being thrown behind PC's currently,they will increase their market share,but some way still to go in terms of ease of use,particularly with the user interface,and Windows Media Player.
     

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