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dvd looks great on pc

Discussion in 'Desktop & Laptop Computers Forum' started by briandzo, Jan 5, 2003.

  1. briandzo

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    can anyone expain why dvd's look so great on my pc.
    ive a pretty high spec pc..
    but the dvd player does only cost about £50.
    geforce4 vid card with hardware acceleration.

    when i watch dvd's on this sytem the image
    is so sharp and colourfull.
    you can see so much detail.

    in the living room setup.
    i have anpretty expensive wide scrren set
    which im please with
    toshiba 32zp18Q

    tosh dvd player...only base model.

    why are the images just not in the same league as the PC.

    can anyone explain...

    Brian.
     
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    You don't say what display device you're using for your PC, but whatever it is, it will be non-interlaced and therefore equivalent to progressive scan.

    You have a Tosh player and a Tosh DVD, if you're not watching DVDs in lovely progressive scan, then that'll be why.

    Also, don't worry about the fact that your DVD-ROM is only £50. You can't compare that price with the price of the DVD player as a lot of the work for playing back DVD is also done by the rest of the PC, including your graphics card.
     
  3. briandzo

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    thanks for response..

    my pc display is a iiyama 19inch vision master pro454
    there latest model.

    my living room tosh dvd does not support prog scan.

    therefore do i need to have both

    a prog scan dvd player and prog scan tv display
    to see the benefits.
    my tosh display is a 100HZ jobby.

    would i be wasting my money buying a dvd player with prog scan.
    if i dont have a prog scan display..
     
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    Your TV does progressive scan. It has component video inputs on the back, just to the right of the 3 Scart sockets. I think it will only do progressive scan for NTSC though, not PAL. Someone who has the set will be able to tell you more (do a search).

    You don't say what your DVD player is, but all recent Tosh DVD player also have component outputs and thus do progressive scan (just for NTSC as far as I know, but again do a search as someone who owns the same model will be able to tell you more).

    It's madness to have a Tosh TV and a Tosh DVD player and NOT use progressive scan, even if it's just for NTSC.
     
  5. MuFu

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    This is almost a side-point, but are you using PowerDVD for playback?

    I only ask because the default colour profile is "Vivid" and this tends to flatter DVD picture quality. Whilst it looks nice and vibrant, the downside is that it isn't really faithful to the master - often colours can look a little over-saturated. I much prefer the "Theater" or "Original" settings. Of course, all the above points stand with regards to why DVD reproduction on a PC looks inherently better anyway.

    MuFu.
     
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    Good point MuFu.

    I should also add as well that your DVDs on your PC do not have a whopping great cable standing between the DVD player and the display device, thus the image is "purer".

    If you are not using good quality cables (Scart and component) to connect your DVD player to your TV, then you really should invest in some as you will notice improvements in image quality.

    Also, until you start using progressive scan, your DVD player should be set to output RGB in order to get the best picture quality.
     
  7. briandzo

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    thanks for replys.

    my tosh dvd is the combi dvd/vhs unit they make.
    unfortunaetly this doesnt have component o/p's

    im using quality QED scart leads
    the wife has no idea of the cost of these.

    ive got my eye on the denon dvd 2800 mk2.

    this has progscan and component o/p.

    but can i assume that when i do this dvd player upgd.

    that all my region 2 dvd's will not play as progressive scan.
    due to them being 625 line pal dvd's.

    all am i missing something here.

    i read all this good stuff about prog scan
    but it appears not to be licensed in the Uk.

    all do i just play dvd's in ntsc mode.
    is this possible and the normal procedure.

    obvioulsy when ive bought the kit.

    thanks again
    appreciate your comments

    brian..
     
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    Prog. Scan is now legal in the UK. It just takes time to filter through to the equipment.

    Your best off asking about any new DVD player and compatibility with your TV in another thread in the progressive scan forum :)
     
  9. Marcus Wood

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    Progressive scan is a big part of it, but I think another reason computer monitors look better than TVs is that they have higher resolution, and smaller dots on the screen.

    Although PAL DVDs have 576 lines, I'm sure not many consumer TVs can display all those lines, whereas most computer monitors can display over 700. I estimated my TVs resolution (not very scientifically) at about 300 lines.

    I believe you can check the number of lines of resolution that your TV has if you get the AVIA test disc.
     
  10. owain_thomas

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    Unfortunately briandzo, your toshiba TV can't accept a progressive input even though it has component connections, it will only display interlaced sources.

    Your TV picture is about3 times the size of your monitor, so any defects will be easier to see. Also the toshiba range of WS TVs are notoriously badly setup out of the box. My 36ZD26P (these newer models can do prog scan through their component inputs) had contrast set to 100 and brightness and sharpness wayyyy to high. The Avia disk would be a good place to start if you wanted to calibrate the TV (if you haven't already done so), this can make a big difference to the picture quality, although - realistically - it's never going to look as sharp as a 19" prog scan image, it can look just as impressive - the increased size making it a lot more cinematic experience.

    HTH
    Owain
     
  11. briandzo

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    is this AVIA test disk available in the UK
    if so any ideas where i can get a copy.

    thanks
     
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    The cheapest way I found to get it was from amazon Canada ( www.amazon.ca ) they shipped it for about £35 in total and it came in about a week.

    HTH
    Owain
     

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