My main use is to record TV soaps and send it to friend overseas, and transfer home video from DV. I have a Rogers 810 +RW recorder for several months and am generally very happy with it. For recording TV shows I had to watch with it and pause for adverts. So a hard disk recorder Would certainly make life easier as cutting the adverts afterwards is very easy. I had looked at manuals of Hitachi, Toshiba and LG and decided on the LG for the price/features. There are many shortcomings, so I am disappointed so to speak. I may decide to change to another one but before I do that, I can share my experience so that new comers to this will know what to expect. And users of others (Toshiba/Hitachi/Pioneer/Panasonic etc) can also share the experience on the same. I have a feeling that most of the hard disk recorders may have the same "short comings". LG4820 has only 4 recording modes: 1h, 2h, 4h, no 6h. It is not a problem as I would never record in 6h mode anyway. Quality of recording with 4h mode to harddisk is very disappointing. However, recording with 4h mode to dvd (-R/RW) is very good. So I usually record to HD in 1h mode and then transfer to DVD in 4h mode and I am happy with the quality. It means that changing quality when transferring to DVD is possible, but only limited to 1h/2h/4h, variable rate is not possible, which is a disappointment. But I knew that from the manual before so that was not a complaint. Fast dubbing - and that is a big disappointment, which is not stated or made clear in the manual: (I could say that their product distribution leaflet or even the manual was misleading) HD to DVD - 1. Most dubbing can be done only in real time, fast copy is not possible if you want to copy HD content to DVD at a lower quality (e.g. a 4h HQ(1h mode) into one DVD). Fast copy is possible only if you copy one hour content (single title) into a VR mode DVD-RW. FAST COPY IS NOT POSSIBLE WHATSOEVER INTO A DVD-R. 2. Only one title can be copied at a time. You cannot copy several titles into one DVD in one go. There is no playlist in HD content so you cannot make several titles into a playlist and then make copy. 3. To over come the above I had to combine all contents (4-5 episodes) into one title and then copy to DVD. And I usually do this before I go to bed and leave it as it has to be done in real time. 4. As I am making copy to send to friend, there is no question of copying it with VR mode. So they are all in video mode. There are no thumbnails in the copy. The end copy results in text display of about 20 "Empty Title" titles, corresponding to the beginnings/ends after deleting the adverts in between. I could not find a way to make the end DVD into just one single title, or with thumbnails. DVD to HD - 1. Once again, only one title can be copied to HD at a time. You cannot copy several titles in one go. Needless to say, you cannot copy a whole DVD as it is. You must select a title to copy. 2. I made a playlist of several titles (VR/RW) and tried to copy a playlist but it was no go. You cannot copy a playlist to HD. Editing - I only make editing in HD so editing a DVD VR -RW is not a concern. Editing feature is limited. You cannot import a picture as thumbnail outside the same title. You cannot make a DVD-R disc with all thumbnails/titles in tact as mentioned above. My main use is the delete adverts which is as easy as you can get from any make and that is one plus. Combining/dividing titles are also easy. What are your experiences with Toshiba/Pioneer/Panasonic/Hitachi as regard to the above "short comings"? What about Phillips 720 for +RW? Is there a big difference in features? (possible/not possible +/-) I (and probably most of you) would like to know what to expect before making a decision for another one. It may well turn out that every one has limitation of some sort.