Just saw this on DVD-Debate. Cheers to gazza for the heads-up...Grim reading... Gazza DVD Protection could be worse than we thought! Fri Oct 6 14:55:14 2000 I have just recieved word that many mod companies such as Techtronics and Scan that they have recieved a test disc for the new protection system. Many DVD Players refuse to load the test disc, even when the manual switching was enabled. This could now prove to be a big problem. The Sony 525, 725 & 7700 do not load the disc. Pioneer 525, 626D and the 717 do not load, but the new Pioneer players are ok. It does depend on which firmware you got though, so there is a chance that some might work. They are currently in testing with many different DVD players, but these are the only ones they have tried so far. It could prove a costly thing to get our players rechipped or firmware upgraded. I am now holding back on buying any new DVD's until this has been confirmed or denyied. Patriot is the first title to have the protection system on it (according to certain sources only). I personally do not fancy spending 100 quid on getting my DVD player to work again. what are your thoughts? ------------------ Were you always this stupid or did you take lessons? I TOOK LESSONS!