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  1. dvdchild

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    Hi Guys,

    I would like to connect my PW7 to my HDMI enable Pioneer 668. Does anyone know or even tested if the DVI-D board (TY-42TM6D) can be used when using a hmdi to dvi cable/converter or even does it work at all.

    I know panasonic sell an hdmi board but it apparently won't do 50hz which is useless for pal viewing.

    All help would be greatly appreciated.

    dvdchild
     
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    It will work fine with a 668 at 480p @60Hz and 576p @ 50Hz its 720p and 1080i @ 50 that wont work only 720p and 1080i @ 60Hz so you should be fine as the 668 doesnt upscle IIRC if does then use 720p for 60Hz material
     
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    so it looks like the same problems as using the hdmi card. looks like i will be sticking to component.

    Are there any dvd players that will upscale over component or do i need to buy a scaler.

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    there are DVD player that will uspcale component tend to cheap ones HVD player or very high end flag ship denon is one
     
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    any examples of cheap ones
     
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    dvdchild

    What's wrong with connecting the HDMI Output from your DV-668AV player at 480P(60) and 576P(50) to the Optional HDMI Input for your Display?

    Best regards

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    BEtter off buying a Scaler mate
     
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    it appears that the hdmi card won't run certain resolutions. My player can out maximum of 720p. can someone clarify what actual resolutions will run with this card. I use a mixture of pal and ntsc so needs to work with both.
     
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    HDMI card and DVi Card are both capable of same resolutions (DVi does a few more) but neither do 720p @ 50 Hz only 60 Hz same for 1080i
     
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    so what would be the best option of getting the higher resolutions. Scaler or would at HTPC do it. Am i really going to notice much difference anyway???

    thanks
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    with a scaler feeding 720p you will see a differnce did you buy the DVD player before or after the plasma?
     
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    i had the player before plasma with good intentions of using the hsmi at some point.
     
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    I have always seen HDMI for DVD as a waste of HDMI as its an SD format.......but thats just me
     
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    fair enough point - looks like the best option is to stick with component.
     
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    but but .... it's a pw7, I assume it's not the phd7, so surely 720p won't make much of a difference for a 480 screen?

    Thanks

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    actually the best way to feed a PWD7 is 720p RGBHV
     
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    wouldn't that be double scaling, upscaling dvd to 720 and then panel internal downscaling to screen resolution @ 480?

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    yep but with PAL DVD's you scale anyway and the panny's internal scaler does a superb job of downscaling 720p to 480p better (some say) than feeding native from a scaler or 576i/p from a DVD player this being one example of why there are NO hard and fast rules when it comes to PQ
     
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    so how do you feed the screen 720p RGBHV??? Scaler???
     
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    Real 720p looks lovely on a PW, but thing is, which is really an extension of what Joe is saying, if you let your reasonably priced DVD scale pal material to 720p, then have the plasma scale it to 480p, you have that old 'calculator problem' occurring. Good ones (calculators)can divide by pi and multiply by pi and come up with the number you first thought of. Less good ones have a very slightly different answer. Scale once, do it well, do it in the best scaling device you have. In the case of a PW plasma and a well priced DVD player, send it 576 for pal. Up scaling is not adding anything, nor does it really hep the picture in any material respect. Scalers do other things as well, which do offer improvements, but don't expect to find the features of a Lumagen or iscan HD in a moderately priced DVD player.
     
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    Hello all

    dvdchild - we need to clarify :)

    Do you have?

    01. Pioneer DV-668AV - outputs 480P(60) or 576P(50) via HDMI.

    or a

    02. Pioneer DV-868AVi - outputs 480i(60), 480P(60), 576i(50), 576P(50), 720P(50), 720P(60) and 1080i(60) via HDMI.

    Best regards

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    i have the Pioneer 668avi which supports upto 720p.

    dvdchild.
     
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    Hello dvdchild

    I'm guessing you have the DV-868AVi - which offers up-conversion of 480 line (R1) and 576 line (R2) discs to 720P or 1080i.

    The DV-668AV-s does not offer the up conversion facility.

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    no i have the 668av not the 868avi. just checked the online manual on pioneer page 72 under HDMI Resolution states

    DV-668AV only - Only the 720 X 480p and 720 X 576[ options are available in the resolution settings

    If this helps any further???

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    Hello dvdchild

    :) - when folk are talking about 720P and 1080i they are meaning the number of lines/rows of pixels top to bottom; your 720 is the number of Pixels left to right.

    A scaled 720P signal is 1280x720P - as per my first post your player is an ideal match for the Optional HDMI Input board for a 7 Series display; you have no requirement for additional processing/scaling etc (unless you really want to spend the extra cash to enhance the image you can achieve with your current set up).

    Again keep in mind your Display is 852x480 so any signals with more than 480 lines/rows of pixels (top to bottom) has to be down converted by your Display to 'fit' on the pixel array.

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    my only hesitation on getting the HDMI board is that i will watch a mixture of Pal/NTSC discs. Will the board/screen support this???

    :eek: My head hurts from all these numbers ;)

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    What we are all saying is yes indeed it will be just peachy. A R1 DVD will give you 480p@60Hz, a supported res on the HDMI board, and PAL R2 discs will give you 576p@50Hz, again supported by the HDMI board. Just plug and play, as they say. Well, you'll have to turn on digital output in the player menu 1st of course.
     
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    thanks for all your help, but i don't want to buy something that is not going to work and i'm stuck with.

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    sorry forgot to ask - so what res am i running with just progressive scan Pal/NTSC connected with component.
     
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    MAW are you also saying this will be better than component with the pw7?
     

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