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DV88 - worth upgrading to progressive?

Discussion in 'Arcam Owners' Forum' started by sooperscoop, Sep 13, 2005.

  1. sooperscoop

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    So I'm taking a long hard look at my trusty old DV88. I've had it about 4 years but never upgraded to progressive because I was in the US at the time and the dealers seemed a bit clueless.

    So, has anyone done this (I know it's a factory upgrade) and how much would it cost?

    It is really worth it? I'm sure DVD players have moved on and maybe a DVD88 with prog. scan would get it's arse kicked by a new £200 player?

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. steeled

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    I don't think the upgrade is available any more. Arcam no longer make players using the chipset that is in the DV89.

    If you want to upgrade consider the DV78 and DV79 depending if you require DVD-A.

    HTH
     
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    Yeah, I guess you could be right, it was a long time ago, tho the website still mentions it.

    Might be time to part with some cash....

    Thanks.
     
  4. per-Sony-fied

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    I talked to Arcam some months ago, about May time and they certainly offered the upgrade then. From what I remember they just stick a new chassis board in it. technically making it a 89 without DVD-A so will have the 89 Zoran vadis chip implanted which differs from the 88 you have. The price for upgrade is not cheap about a couple of hundred quid. For this money you might as well sell the 88 for what you can get and buy a 2nd hand 89 (fully DVD-A spec'd). The pic quality is still extremely good and I doubt any new player of a few hundred quid would challenge it.
     
  5. RaceTripper

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    The progressive scan upgrade adds the Silicon Image 504 deinterlacer, which is superior to the Vaddis 5 now used for deinterlacing in the newer Arcam players. It will bring the player up to DV27A video quality, and is well worth it in my opinion. I added this upgrade to my DV88Plus last summer and it was a big improvement over using the Vaddis 5 it used for progressive scan before the upgrade.

    DVD-A is a seperate upgrade.
     
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    I agree with Dwette.

    The DVD88 with Silicon Image prog scan upgrade board is better than any of the current Diva range.
     
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    I'd be interested to know if you get a price for the upgrade as I am in the same situation too. Buy a DV79 for £999, or a progressive scan upgrade for less than £999 :)
     
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    You could of course buy an ex dem DV89 which essentially only lacks the HDMI socket. I bet it performs as well in every other respect.
     
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    Good point, because the DV89 has the Silicon Image SiI504 deinterlacer.
     
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    The DV89 did not have the Sil504 fitted as standard, it used the Zoran Vaddis 5 chipset for deinterlacing. The Sil504 board was an optional upgrade which allowed simultaneous output of deinterlaced and interlaced pictures.

    You can check this on the information page on Arcam's website below:

    http://www.arcam.co.uk/archive/diva/cinema/dv89.html#DesignDetails
     
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    Hi
    I'm a bit confused - I have a dv88 plus which I thought was the same as the dv89 but without dvd audio?
    So what upgrades could be applied to the DV88 plus?
    Thanks
     
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    All the same I bet for most people with 'normal' viewing experience, those with standard size TV's whether CRT or LCD would not notice any major difference, certainly not to the cost of modification.
     
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    Doh! That's right. What was I thinking?

    Thanks for pointing out the correct info Crusty.
     
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    You can still get the Sil504 board fitted which will give a higher performance progressive output.
     
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    Or you can have the DVD Audio board added :)

    My DV88 was updated to + spec many moons ago.. never bothered with DVD-A as it was about £350 just to get that.. my player is 5 years old in Jan !

    Matt
     
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    I never got the DVD-A upgrade. Just didn't see the point for such an expense when there are 2 competing and incompatable standards for hi-res audio. I expect the 2 will just kill each othe off in the long run. Ditto for the emerging high def video DVD standards. There's a disaster we get to witness in the coming years.
     
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    I have a Pioneer 565 or is it 656 ?? anyway its connected to the first Philips tv incorporating pixel plus tech. The picture and sound are outstanding. Would buying an Arcam Diva dvd really improve the sound and vision all that much. anyone.
     
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    Err without actually knowing the quality's of the Pioneer I can't say for sure but I can say it beats a Sony DVP-S7700 for picture and sound which is already very good in this respect. After watching the Arcam for some time it has become clear that the Sony lacks a fruity colour palette, looks more 2 dimensional and edgy.

    The Arcam sound is altogether more free with better kick and impact, greater resolution in the bass, but you could say the Sony has more of it!

    The worst aspect of the Arcam for me is the time it takes to read discs and move on to the next title. The Sony is absolutely superb in this respect and has a much quieter and smoother DVD loading tray.
     
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    The DV88 Plus (Vaddis 5) is quite an improvement over the Pio DV444 which wasn't bad in itself and probably similar to your players as they tended to use similar chip sets in the low to mid range players. The sound quality is much better. :smashin:
     

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