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DV79 forbids DTS Neo:6 on 24/96 DVD Video

Discussion in 'Arcam Owners' Forum' started by Crespotav, May 8, 2005.

  1. Crespotav

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    Remember the first discs that supported 24/96, long before DVD-Audio?. I have only one (Chesky's Sampler and test disk).

    Playing it on the DV79 the Neo:6 Music (and Movies) Modes are not available in the AVR300.
    The setup of Down-sample in DV79 is set to "Max 96K"

    Using the same SPDIF Coax connection, to the old Pioneer DV-717, such modes are selectable.

    Any idea why this happens, ARCAM Engineers?
     
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    It might be because the Pioneer DV717 is downsampling the audio to 48KHz before outputing it, thus allowing the amplifer to apply further post processing such as DTS Neo and other such decoding methods. The DV79 is outputing the signal in is native 96KHz audio format and it may not be possible for the processing chip in the AVR300 to apply other post processing effects.
     
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    Sorry Mr. Crustyloafer, but your suggestion is misleading. The Pioneer DV-717 and other models of the same generation output 96KHz. It has an option to set it to 48 or 96KHz in page 60 of the manual, and mine is set to 96Khz.

    The Problem with the DV79 is either a bug or compliance to some trade rules of the DVD forum. Remember that DTS was almost barred from implementation in the first players, thanks to the Almighty Mr. Ray Dolby. This guy invented nothing and controls the sound industry, by political tricks...

    Would Mr. Dutton care to comment, please.
     
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    Oh, its' handbags at dawn time. I never thought it'd come to this.
     
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    The AVR300 cannot process 96KHz signals in DTS Neo. However it can do Dolby PLII. So I think that Crustyloafer is probably right here. It looks like whatever your Pioneer Says it is doing, it is infact down sampling to either 48 or 44.1KHz otherwise the AVR300 would not be able to do DTS Neo on the signal.

    Regards,
    Andrew
     
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    Hello Mr. Dutton
    I present my humble apologies to you. The Pioneer was set to output 48Khz, probably because I made a mistake when I exited the configuration mode. These DVDs should all have a separate Save and Exit, like the AVR300 does.
    Therefore you are right and Pioneer was downsampling, because I made a mistake. Once corrected it behaves exactly like the DV79.

    Anyway the best sound quality from this record is obtained by feeding the signal from the DV79 in analogue straight into the FMJ A22, via a Kimber HERO cables, completely bypassing the AVR300. The DACs in the DV79 are far better than anything I had in the past including Audio Alchemy.

    Best regards
    Crespo
     
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    Oh, does that mean I was right too? :clap:
     
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    You are no gentleman, and I do not talk to [bad language removed by admin].
     
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    Thats not very fair - Crustyloafer offered his suggestion in a friendly and informative manner. It just so happened he was correct too - why does that make him not a gentleman?

    :)
     
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    Crespotav actually emailed me saying that he'd want his own membership removed if I didn't 'deal with' CrustyLoafer.
    I responded saying that I felt he was being over sensitive.
    He's clearly posted the above abuse to get himself banned and I have obliged.
    Don't want his type round here.
     

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