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Dutch keeper defends himself but gets red card

SBT

Banned
Can't believe he got a red card.If you don't want to get a kick from a goalie then dont run on the pitch,simples.

Lets hope Holland isn't as daft as this country or he'll be arrested for assault:rolleyes:
 

mrtbag

Novice Member
We were talking about this earlier in the office. Surely by giving him a red card they are encouraging fans to chance their arm at helping their team out? I know people will say they risk a lifetime ban etc, so why would they? Having been to a few matches in Holland, they are never sober affairs!! I'm with the keeper, and wouldn't laid the boot in too.
 

jassco

Distinguished Member
I agree with the red card. Not for the first kick, but for kicking him a few times on the ground when he was no longer a threat. If it was in England then he should have been prosecuted. I hate the idea that if it happens on a football pitch it is legal, i.e. punching someone.
 

NooBish AbbZ 92

Distinguished Member
I agree with the red card. Not for the first kick, but for kicking him a few times on the ground when he was no longer a threat.

I agree. First kick self-defence. Second kick while invader was on the floor, intent. Coulda just held the guy down for the stewards
 

jdevil

Distinguished Member
Taking him down on the floor was fair enough, the keeper went too far with the consecutive attacks.
 

travid

Well-known Member
The red card has been rescinded now and rightly so.
Perhaps he could now be prosecuted for the inappropriate use of force after the attacker was subdued ?
 

chrismac

Active Member
Taking him down on the floor was fair enough, the keeper went too far with the consecutive attacks.
Should he have backed off and allowed the attacker to get up and attack him again? He done what he had to do to stop his attacker becomming a threat again.
 

travid

Well-known Member
Kicking him on the floor is not appropriate and a use of force that was beyond what is acceptable.
 

Johnny P

Active Member
I think the referee brandished the red card because he kicked his attacker while he was on the floor. As with all countries, referees are assessed by an assessor at each match and this is why we see some frustratingly picky refereeing displays as they want to avoid being marked down by the assessor.

For what it's worth, I do have a great deal of sympathy for the goalkeeper and I'm glad his card has been rescinded. His attacker may have had a weapon that he would have been willing to use if he had got back to his feet.

I don't condone kicking a man while he's down in a fair fight, but if you are attacked then you must defend yourself at all costs. If that means keeping somebody on the deck, then so be it.
 

NooBish AbbZ 92

Distinguished Member
travid said:
Kicking him on the floor is not appropriate and a use of force that was beyond what is acceptable.
Agreed.
Restraining him by sitting on him if he had to would be better than kicking again and would maintain the threat under control
 

chrismac

Active Member
Agreed.
Restraining him by sitting on him if he had to would be better than kicking again and would maintain the threat under control
And if the thug happened to have a knife???

The keeper kept his attacker under control and himself safe by kicking him a couple of times on the legs to prevent him from getting up. Its alright sitting at your computer and commenting with hindsight, but when you are taken unaware and attacked, you dont really know whats happening and you do what you feel you need to do at that moment to protect yourself.
I actually cant believe people are complaining about a man who was attacked by a thug, kicking his attacker a couple of times on the leg when he is down, its not like he jumped on his head :rolleyes:
 

Ruperts slippers

Distinguished Member
And if the thug happened to have a knife???

The keeper kept his attacker under control and himself safe by kicking him a couple of times on the legs to prevent him from getting up. Its alright sitting at your computer and commenting with hindsight, but when you are taken unaware and attacked, you dont really know whats happening and you do what you feel you need to do at that moment to protect yourself.
I actually cant believe people are complaining about a man who was attacked by a thug, kicking his attacker a couple of times on the leg when he is down, its not like he jumped on his head :rolleyes:
I agree ,its nearly impossible to keep someone hyped up such as this guy was from getting up off the floor by merely sitting on him,the kicks were a warning to his attacker and i thought he showed alot of restraint.
 

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