Dune HD Max Vision 4K

Sir QD oled

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mtenga

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Nice Monkey

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Admit I did not get it as those names mean nothing to me.
Please enlight us.
 

mtenga

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Nice Monkey

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Thanks' mtenga. Now got it.

Due to lack of Dune news gossip is an alternative but frankly not my piece of cake. But humor always is good.
 

mtenga

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Yes still no firmware update whilst their customer Zappiti has recently had theirs. Ferrari supplies engines to Haas and Alpha Romeo in Formula 1 but usually the customers do not get the updates first!

I suppose you could argue that the Dune is playing movies without real issue so enhancements can wait, but I am keen to see the new front display options on the Max visualised a bit more from other users. Might tempt me to buy one.
 

Nice Monkey

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What I would like to see enhanced with Dune is subtitle features.
Yes, I always wondered about the usage of that front display too. Zidoo is moving slow but steady improving theirs.
 
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mtenga

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What I would like to see enhanced with Dune is subtitle features.
Yes, I always wonderen about the usage of that front display too. Zidoo is moving slow but steady improving theirs.
I’m personally just waiting for better sort and grouping options and ability to use your own posters. I’m glad they’ve realised that the Max/Ultra models were not efficiently using their front displays and have sought to improve that.
 

a5ian300zx

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I’m personally just waiting for better sort and grouping options and ability to use your own posters. I’m glad they’ve realised that the Max/Ultra models were not efficiently using their front displays and have sought to improve that.

I posted the pics for you of the new firmware update and the larger front display on AVSforums, did you see it?

I also posted the links to the new firmware the RC version, been solid so far.
 

a5ian300zx

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Dune Update: i added the RC firmwares.

Firmware update is still expected soon. We work on it with a big priority. Previously, the update was delayed because of critical issues in the new functions, and it was decided to postpone the release. We don't want to release things when we already know they are seriously broken. Although most Dune HD customers use Dune HD media players just to enjoy watching movies and are happy with this, we also know that some users eagerly wait for updates and new functions, and we are sorry for the delay. We will push internally to release it ASAP. We hope it will be really soon now.
If you want to test it, here is the current release candidate version for your Max Vision 4K:
http://files4.dune-hd.com/tmp/dune_firmware_tv794a_220609_0358_r20.dff
The new firmware includes, in particular, better use of the front panel OLED display (for Max Vision and Ultra Vision models) during playback with bigger font.
The full list of changes and improvements will be published together with public release.
Media icons for My Collection are still in development. It was hoped to finish it for this update (we know that many users wait for this feature), but it turned out to require more time, and it seems it will be part of next updates."


The links again - max vision in the above thread.


Real Vision 4K
http://files4.dune-hd.com/tmp/dune_firmware_tv175u_220609_0358_r20.dff
Pro vision 4K Solo
http://files4.dune-hd.com/tmp/dune_firmware_tv175v_220609_0358_r20.dff
Ultra Vision
http://files4.dune-hd.com/tmp/dune_firmware_tv994a_220609_0358_r20.dff


PLEASE NOTE this is a Release Candidate version so will have bugs, but after this a Beta version will be released soon.
 

Nice Monkey

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Will wait for the next beta to come, but good to see work is still being done on it. They got me worried.
 

walstib

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@Dune: Thank you for the update.

And thanks to the bloke who bloke who posted the joke re: footballer wives :) Sometimes it's good to keep things in perspective.

The feature I am most anxious for is manual editing of content that can't be found when scanning. I have several titles now that don't find a match, so being able to manually edit them would be great.

I am still also having some HDMI handshake issues. If I don't use the DUNE for a bit, when I change all my gear (PrePro/TV) to the Dune HDMI input, the TV reports "No Signal". The only way to solve it is to completely reboot the DUNE and force the handshake from scratch. It may not be a DUNE issue - could be in the TV (LG OLED) or PrePro (Marantz). HDMI handshaking is a mess - really a poorly executed "standard".

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Also - not sure if this was answered - but the Dune database for scraped content - can that be exported in any way and imported to another Dune? I don't think it can be "shared" where both can bi-directionally synch to a "master" DB.

Use case is simple: I want to purchase another Dune 4K, but don't need a MAX. In fact, may want to purchase a couple, and have those synch to the Max where I prefer to do collection management.
 

mtenga

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I posted the pics for you of the new firmware update and the larger front display on AVSforums, did you see it?

I did and much appreciated. Gin addled senile that I am I completely forget :confused:

Also - not sure if this was answered - but the Dune database for scraped content - can that be exported in any way and imported to another Dune? I don't think it can be "shared" where both can bi-directionally synch to a "master" DB.

Use case is simple: I want to purchase another Dune 4K, but don't need a MAX. In fact, may want to purchase a couple, and have those synch to the Max where I prefer to do collection management.

You can download a CSV of your collection and then manipulate in Excel, as I do. It is a relatively simple process as explained in the link below. Sadly that is for info only and if you own multiple Dune devices then you have to do multiple scrape efforts, unlike Zappiti where it is at account level which can be shared between machines.

 

walstib

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I did and much appreciated. Gin addled senile that I am I completely forget :confused:



You can download a CSV of your collection and then manipulate in Excel, as I do. It is a relatively simple process as explained in the link below. Sadly that is for info only and if you own multiple Dune devices then you have to do multiple scrape efforts, unlike Zappiti where it is at account level which can be shared between machines.


Would be great to be able to upload the manipulated CSV, but seems that is not an option.

It's also clear now after reading that page that Dune maintains their own DB. Pros/Cons to that of course; the biggest con is if that DB or Dune ever go away, then we essentially have devices that can play files directly, but further indexing will be impossible. This is why manual editing/uploading a "DB" is critical in my opinion.

Note that is largely the same issue with other players - which is why I think all of them should support at least an ability to dump to CSV, edit, import.

Makes me wonder - and I 've not tried it yet: does the Dune need to ever "phone home" in order to work, even periodically? Have to block it from the internet and see how it behaves. Obviously scraping won't work, but more of a test to see if it ever requires contacting "central servers" to continue operating.
 

mtenga

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Makes me wonder - and I 've not tried it yet: does the Dune need to ever "phone home" in order to work, even periodically? Have to block it from the internet and see how it behaves. Obviously scraping won't work, but more of a test to see if it ever requires contacting "central servers" to continue operating.
Zappiti has an offline mode which allows basic functionality without going onto the internet. It is essentially a one time download of poster info from the Zappiti database to your own machine. Dune does not have anything similar and if their server ever disappeared I suspect it would work on an “Explorer“ type basis.

 

walstib

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Is there any published information on exactly what Dune stores outside the device, and what features require an always-connected (or "online") mode? It strikes me that given the amount of local storage, needing to be connected seems unnecessary.
 

mtenga

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Is there any published information on exactly what Dune stores outside the device, and what features require an always-connected (or "online") mode? It strikes me that given the amount of local storage, needing to be connected seems unnecessary.
No not as far as I am aware. It’s now in the nature of these devices that they are reliant on the internet to a significant degree whether that be via manufacturers servers or third party listing sites such as IMDb.
 

Nice Monkey

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http://files4.dune-hd.com/tmp/dune_firmware_tv175u_220627_0358_r20.dff
http://files4.dune-hd.com/tmp/dune_firmware_tv175v_220627_0358_r20.dff
Most likely exists also for Max and Ultra.

Not on the official NewGUI pages yet so it may be a RC3 and not a real Alpha?
New GUI
But something is cooking.
:)


The front display choice for: Playing time, Remaining time or Clock is now available via setup (choice for Video and Music). That is a nice change.
 
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walstib

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a5ian300zx

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a5ian300zx

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new firmware offcially released.


Version "220630_0727_r20" (BETA version)
Download: dune_firmware_tv794a_220630_0727_r20.dff

Changes since 220317_0257_r20:
• All models: New GUI: Global search function: it now searches not only for movies, but also for persons. Persons in search results can be browsed similarly to movies.

• All models: New GUI: Dune voice search UI: added a possibility to switch the voice recognition langauge between the choosen UI language and English. Useful when searching for English movies and the UI language is not English.

• All models: New GUI: Dune voice search UI: added a possibility to launch Google assistant from Dune voice bar.

• All models: New GUI: My Collection: Automatic reindexing can now be done more frequently than once per day (up to once per 4 hours).

• All models: New GUI: Various improvements for watch progress indication. Watch progress is now shown also for movies which are not part of the movie collection.

• All models: New GUI: Recent menu: improved handling of TV shows; some other improvements.

• All models: New GUI: Movie screen now provides "More.." button when there is more than one to watch a movie.

• All models: New GUI: Restored the possibility to search for movies also when using the old GUI version of My Collection app.

• All models: New GUI: Improved video preview. It could work wrongly and wrongly cause auto framerate function in some cases.

• All models: New GUI: Improved handling of absent or bad Internet connection.

• All models: New GUI: Improved possibilities for hiding uneeded UI functions by disabling built-in plugins in "Setup / Misc / Plugins" menu.

• All models: New GUI: Improved display of long texts in Netflix-like view.

• All models: New GUI: Improved handling of "No Internet" cases. Ensured that My Collection and other local content can be always accessed w/o Internet.

• All models: New GUI: Performance improvements and internal improvements for interaction with applications which embed their data into the new menu.

• All models: New GUI: A lot of other bugfixes and internal improvements in specific cases (various issues found during internal testing).

• All models: New GUI: Internal changes for next planned big improvements (such as media tags) (not ready yet, will come in next versions).

• All models: Added a special support for 2.35:1 displays (such as 2.35:1 projectors). It can be enabled in "Setup / Appearance / Advanced" menu. When enabled, the UI is scaled to fit into 2.35:1 area (with special handling of UI background) and subtitles are by default moved into this area.

• All models: Added a new parental control function: lock schedule (see "Setup / Misc / Parental Control" menu). Allows locking media player access during specified time periods. During these time periods, media player access can only be temporarily unlocked by a parental code (locked again automatically when entering standby or after 10 minutes on inactivity without media playback).

• All models: Online subtitles: Improved handling of episodes of TV shows.

• All models: Online subtitles: Can be searched in 3 languages now: chooses subtitles language, choosen UI language, and English.

• All models: Online subtitles: Many other improvements and bugfixes.

• All models: Improved compatibility with SMB1/SMB2/SMB3 protocols when browsing and mounting SMB shares in specific environments.

• All models: Improved automatic configuration of available services and preinstalled applications based on country.

• All models: Improved handling of country setting in Location menu (both country codes and country names are supported now).

• ALl models: Improved video framerate detection in some cases.

• All models: Music playback: Information from CUE sheet now has bigger priority, than information from the audio file.

• All models: Bugfix: Music banner could be wrongly shown for a short time when starting video file playback.

• All models: Bugfix: When playing video files, photo files present in the same directory could be wrongly shown in Dune Control mobile app as covers for the played file.

• All models: TV plugins: PLAY button on TV plugin in Favorites menu now works the same as in Apps menu (can be used to quickly start TV playback).

• All models: TV playback: added support for HLS streams of type "Event" (available when using "engine:1" playback engine), including the possibility to pause and timeshift the playback.

• All models: Added correct handling of external storage devices formatted as Android storage. Previously such devices wronly appeared in Sources menu.

• All models: Bugfix: Text in Right-to-Left languages (such as Hebrew) was wrongly displayted in Dune Control mobile app.

• All models: Bugfix: Switching IPTV channels via P- did not work in some cases.

• All models: Bugfix: Adjusting subtitle time offset did not work in some cases.

• All models: Bugfix: Shortcuts to NFS folders in Favorites menu did not work in some cases.

• All models: Bugfix: When adding a shortcut to a movie to Favorites menu, movie poster could be lost in some cases.

• All models: A lot of other bugfixes and improvements when playing specific files and streams (various issues found during internal testing).

• Realtek models: SMB server: upgraded to a newer Samba version.

• Realtek models: SMB server: improved compatibility with newest Windows versions.

• Realtek models: SMB server: added new setting: SMB1 support enabled/disabled (by default, it is enabled; when enabled, SMB server supports all SMB versions: SMB1, SMB2, SMB3; when disabled, SMB server supports only SMB2 and SMB3).

• Realtek models: SMB server: added new settings: user name, password, password enabled/disabled (by default, it is disabled; enabling password may be helpful when accesing Dune SMB serfer from newest Windows versions, which prohibit password-less access by default).

• Realtek models: Added automatic firmware update for the new Dune Remote R3 Bluetooth remote (fixed the problem that this function, which was added in previous firmware versions, was not actually working.)

• Realtek models: Improved handling of external USB DAC when used together with USB microphone and in some other cases.

• Realtek models: Added support for user fonts for subtitles (like it was previously available on Sigma models: choose a .TTF file in file browser, press ENTER, and choose "for subtitles"). Removed wrong mentioning of this function from the menu of other models which do not support it.

• Realtek models: Improved compatibility with specific HTTP/HTTPS streams.

• Realtek models: Bugfix: Playback of TS files via HTTP (such as from a streamed torrent) did not work in some cases.

• Realtek models: Bugfix: Auto framerate and auto resolution could work wrongly for Android apps in some cases.

• Realtek models: Optimizations to improve BD Menu playback performance in specific cases. Not well tested, so disabled by default. Try to enable in case of problems.
• For experimental needs, these optimizations may be manually enabled/disabled using the following DSF utility files (can only be used on the new firmware; effect is preserved till settings reset):
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_bdmenu_perf_mode1_enable.dsf
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_bdmenu_perf_mode1_disable.dsf

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Optimizations to improve SMB (CIFS) client performance in specific cases. Not well tested, so disabled by default. Try to enable in case of problems.
• For experimental needs, these optimizations may be manually enabled/disabled using the following DSF utility files (can only be used on the new firmware; effect is preserved till settings reset):
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_rtd1619_smb_perf_mode1_enable.dsf
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_rtd1619_smb_perf_mode1_disable.dsf

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Optimizations to improve overall system performance; solves performance problems with playback of very high bitrate 4K DV content in specific cases (known to help, in particular, with playback from SMB shares and NTFS HDDs). Enabled by default.
• For experimental needs, these optimizations may be manually enabled/disabled using the following DSF utility files (can only be used on the new firmware; effect is preserved till settings reset):
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_rtd1619_memory_perf_mode1_enable.dsf
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_rtd1619_memory_perf_mode1_disable.dsf

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Optimizations to improve NFS client performance. Enabled by default.
• For experimental needs, these optimizations may be manually enabled/disabled using the following DSF utility files (can only be used on the new firmware; effect is preserved till settings reset):
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_rtd1619_nfs_perf_mode1_enable.dsf
http://dune-hd.com/support/misc/dune_service_rtd1619_nfs_perf_mode1_disable.dsf

• Realtek and S905X3 models: Extended auto framerate setting with new option "prefer double framerate".
• When it is used, 25-30p content is played in 50-60p modes; otherwise 25-30p content is played in 25-30p modes (if the required 25-30p modes are supported).
• Note: it useful only when 4K video mode is used (25-30p modes are supported for 4K resolution on all platforms), and also on RTD1619/RTD1619DR models when 1080p video mode is used and 25p content is played (only RTD1619/RTD1619DR models support 1080p25 video mode).
• On S905X3 models, this new feature is supported only for internal player; on Realtek models, it is supported both for internal player and for Android apps.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Added support for 1080p25 video mode.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Improved detection of 25p and 50i content for auto framearte.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: The number of volume level steps increased to 32.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Improved subtitles display for some languages (arabic, thai, hebrew).

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Added support for playback for specific MP4 files with huge number of tracks.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Improved compatibility with some Blu-ray images.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Optimized 3D depth effect when playing BD3D (it could be slightly wrong in some cases).

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Added possibility to manually switch "left/rigth eye first" mode when playing BD3D in Menu mode (it was not working before).

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Improved automatic detection of "left/right eye first" mode when playing BD3D in Lite mode.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Improvements in DVD-Video playback engine.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: The setting "Playback / Control / UP/DOWN buttons" is extended with a new option "Fast forward/rewind". It allows using UP/DOWN buttons as FF/REW for file and BD Lite playback (DVD-Video: FF/REW were already available via UP/DOWN; BD Menu: FF/REW were already available via P+/P-; UP/DOWN are reserved for BD Menu navigation).

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR models: Bugfix: Volume control via HDMI CEC did not work properly in some cases.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR/S905X3 models: Warning about Bluetooth remotes which require firmware update but have low batteries is now shown less frequently.

• RTD1619/RTD1619DR/S905X3 models: Bugfix: Google voice services did not update to a newer version.

• All models: PHP API: Improved HTTPS support (SSL libraries updated to a newer version).

• All models: Minor changes in the list of preinstalled applications.

• All models: Updated/improved UI translations for some languages.
 

Nice Monkey

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Impressive update list. Will give it a go.

First impression is that updates work as reported and updating is highly recommended.

Not fixed is the audio click after unpausing a movie with the Secondary Audio Only HDMI port.
 
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walstib

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Working well here... So far the HDMI issue I have been having seems to be resolved. Time will tell. Basically when switching my gear between inputs, over time, switching back to the Dune my TV reports "No Signal" and only rebooting the Dune cures that. But has been a few days and so far so good.
 

walstib

Member
The HDMI issue persists. Really hard to tell if it is a Dune issue or not; however none of my other HDMI connected gear has problems. It only seems to be when the Dune is left idle for > 24 hours.

The only way I can correct it is to cold boot the Dune.

Other issue I am seeing - on most 4K/UHD Discs, with Dolby Vision, FF/RW is spotty at best and sometimes causes the Dune to crash/freeze. I don't know if there is correlation to the 4K/UHD/DV source material or not. This just happened today on Matrix Revolutions - which uses some fancy BD-J control overlay (I think it's BD-J)

I do know regular BluRay (no frills, simple menus) and any container based content (MKV, MP4) works fine.
 

deibit

Standard Member
I just got a new DUNE HD Max vision today, not much familiar with it, tried to search in the forum for my specific question but I didn't find an answer to it..

Is there a way to use HDMI and Analog XLR simultaneously? when I activate XLR it seems to deactivate HDMI.... what I try to do it to connect HDMI (audio only) to my AVR and use the XLR analog out to connect to a Crossover->Amp->Buttkicker (to bypass the Audissey EQ on the subwoofer out of the AVR)

Is that even possible?
 

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