I've now returned to buying a DVD recorder having had a bad experience nine months ago - a noisy Pioneer 320. I really like the same sound of the Panasonic ES20 with the dual tuner. It would be even better if it had a DV input, rather than using S-Video connection with my DV Camcorder. Does such a DVD recorder exist? I've no desire for a HDD. I hope to get the new Telewest box when it comes out (equivalent of Sky + ).