Hey I use Dscaler and a pinnacle PCTV card and its great. The adaptive noise filter helps a lot but I do get a fair amount of video noise (and the filter hates smokey enviroments I noticed!). Whilst I'm willing to plump for a falcon or similar to lose the noise I'm wondering if there is a more simpler solution to improve the pinnacle. In my experience RF inputs on most kit are extremely noisy generally and tend to leak into the rest of the circuitry on say TVs and vcrs most commonly . I'm wondering if the noise a lot of people see on the cheaper cards is mainly down to the noisy RF input that most people don't use anyway. Short of buying a black burst signal generator and an RF encoder to feed into the RF input I was wondering if there is any way to knock out the RF input so it effectively gives neutral black rather than static: short circuit it or something? In the meantime I could select a dead channel from my digibox ( plenty to choose from!) and check for a noise improvement using another source ( the Xbox opening screen shows up the noise nicely). This would be a pain though. So anyone know how to take out the RF so its getting black rather than just static?