Driving in snow

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  1. eric pisch

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    I have to say the Haldex system that VAG now use its bloody superb and a distant relative to the awefull slow and cumbersome system that it was when it first came out, reacts faster than you can blink.

    so many cars i have passed that have been stuck spinning there wheels (especially bimmers) it brings tears to my eyes :D

    using launch control on snow covered roads with cars struggling to pull away behind you is great fun

    of course you still cant touch the breaks with 18" rims with no side wall flex and a rubber compound thats as hard as the ice you drive in these low temperatures ...
     
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    I had some fun :rolleyes: last night when I got caught in a blizzard. None of the roads had been treated so there were plenty of spinning wheels, and in my case back end sliding (yes I drive a BMW :D). Although good fun, I did wish I still had my 4 x 4 as I wouldn't have been stranded for 2 hours. :suicide:
     
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    I had great fun in the Evo on the way home last night.
    As said all i could see was spinning wheels from other motorists.
     
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    Rear wheel drive cars are the worst for driving on snow.
     
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    Another vote for 4WD and the Haldex system....my last car was an A4 Quattro Avant(which uses the Torsen type diffs)and now an S3 with the Haldex....on snow and ice,both have been superb.
     
  6. Ian J

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    My 300bhp auto BMW 645 on it's ultra low profile tyres hasn't moved off the drive since the first snow flurry.

    My wife did try and take it yesterday but she couldn't reverse it up the slight incline on our drive as the wheels were spinning all over the knot end so she ended up taking her own car instead
     
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    Yes, our accountant has the same issues, she drives a BMW, she doesn't come to work ever if there is any ice or snow, she simply can't get out of her driveway, sloped also.
     
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    It's amazing the difference that a decent 4WD system makes.....along the way,I had a 440bhp Sierra(RWD) which was simply undriveable if there was a hint of ice around.
    To replace it,I had an Escort with torque sensing diffs which was just completely different,and never slid unless severely pushed,and the current car just copes with snow and ice as easily as rain.

    A colleague of mine has an Alpina B5 which he says is "interesting" on the roads right now.
     
  9. Ian J

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    If he's only had it for about six months it was probably the one that I test drove and fell in love with. Unfortunately I had to give up when Sytners made a derisory offer for my part exchange and it was bought by someone who posts on the Alpina forum as Duncan

    It would be "interesting" as it's basically the same chassis as my six series but with an extra 100bhp
     
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    May very well be the same guy.



    The local BMW dealer is also making rather silly offers on trade-ins,and tried to gouge about £8k out of another colleague recently.....it was on a 3.0 petrol X3 so I can see why they tried. :D
     
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    The 4WD on my Audi did not seem to help when I hit some black nice on the road where my offices are.

    Total wipeout!
     
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    Ouch sorry to hear that.:(
     
  13. Ian J

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    One of our neighbours has a 4WD Audi A4 and I watched him drive off exactly as he would normally whilst all the other cars in our close were spinning and sliding all over the place
     
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    One of the problems with 4WD is that when you do lose grip,you will slide as far as any other car will,and when you get grip again they do tend to head off in the original direction.

    It's a mistake often made by the drivers of large 4WD off-road type vehicles,and I've seen a number of these around where we live in ditches,bridges and fields,when the owners have finally exceeded the limits of grip.
     
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    It drove fine for the hour trip. The last corner into the office, black ice, ABS locked up and I kurbed the hell out of my alloys.
     
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    I think under those sort of situations,cornering on black ice,that nothing is going to stop this other than driving extremely slowly,and that would require you to know there was ice there in the first place.....it's extremely difficult to avoid,and once grip is lost under those conditions,ABS will be unable to recover you from a lateral slide.

    Hope the alloys are fixable!
     
  17. eric pisch

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    The way out of this is to floor the throttle, however 99% of the time like this one theres normally curbs, cars or street furniture in the way ...


    hope you have not done to much damage, i bent the wheels of a GT4 under the car doing this. I hit black ice under snow on a bend, i was able to get the ass round so i hit the curb side on (head on would have meant going over the curb into a lamppost) but that knackered the suspension and drive shafts .... 3 more foot of road and i would have got away with it ...

    still a chain and a jack got it straight enough for me to px it against a new GT4, got some nasty emails from the dealer afterwards :rotfl:
     
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    Too true...hence my comment about driving realllllly slowly.

    On a side note,did you hear/see all the comments from our Russian/Swiss/(insert almost any European country here) friends regarding our snow crisis?

    The one that amused me most was from a Russian chap who said something along the lines of....."-5C and 10cms of snow?......we would call -20C and a couple of metres of snow a mild winter"...and the car?.....an old Skoda.
     
  19. eric pisch

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    when your car only does 50 you can leave the winter tyres on all year round and at 6psi :)
     
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    :rotfl:

    Also fuelled by vodka(driver and car)
     
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    used to live in the usa, and in winter we'd go snowboarding every weekend. we got snowed in one weekend. all the roads were closed, there was feet of snow, not inches..we were snowboarding off the roof of the cabin..

    so they opened the main road out of town for a few hours, and we decided to make a run for it. i had a ford expedition, big 4x4 with some serious winter tyres, the other two vehicles we had were both 4x4s as well...we had to drive down to the main road through some of the deepest stuff i have seen...when we got to the main road, the snow plough had put up a drift of snow several feet high along the side of the main road, which of course blocked our way onto it...so we sent someone out to the road...when there was a gap in the the traffic the 3 of us went for it, me first, smashed out through the snow like the dukes of hazard through a ditch...slid sideways across the road, floored the gas until it got hold then tore down the road..

    best fun i have ever had driving in snow
     
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    The Cupra is interesting in the snow, as long as I let the engine pull the car along it copes quite well.

    200+ bhp and fwd is useless though if I lose momentum :suicide:
     
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    Much of driving in snow is down to the driver. A quick survey of the younger (under 30) folk in the office revealed that none of them knew that using 2nd gear to pull away would help them. The really young folk had never driven in the snow before.

    Yesterday morning for example, walking to the station, old chap in an old Land Rover Defender struggling to turn on the slippy road, young mother in a 106, phone in her left hand, wheel in her right, child in the back, managing perfectly well :eek:

    The Scottish wing of the S2000 owners club have lots of wonderful photos of them driving on some very snowy roads. The S2000 is supposed to be tricky in the wet, nevermind the snow, but they manage perfectly well, even on summer tyres.

    Most people in the south of England are completely clueless when it comes to driving in the snow and ice.

    And on a spelling note, the things at the side of the road are called kerbs.
     
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    I learned how to drive in the snow in Canada, -40 wind chill :rotfl:

    Different drive cars but the same principles apply. No sudden actions and plan well ahead is the simplest approach.
     
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    I seem to cope alright with driving in the snow in the south of England.

    Many people i think, become too reliant on the technology that a lot of new cars have, ESP,ABS etc etc

    Mine has all this but i would never trust it in this kind of weather.
     
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    My problem is that getting out of the drive as I have to reverse up a slight incline and reverse gear is even lower than first
     
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    can you not reverse in the night before?:D
     
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    Had the pleasure of watching some complete tit in a transit connect trying to get up a little hill that was about half the size of your average motorway sliproad. He tried to get up there revving the life out of it in first gear, and got stuck. Some really helpful local teenagers tried to help him by pushing him but it hardly moved. Then he reversed down the hill to the bottom where there's a roundabout. To my amazement he then drives around the roundabout and attempts to go up the hill again. only to get stuck in the exact same place. By this time there was a queue of traffic building up which must have been a mile long. Does he then go back and find another route? No he continues to try climbing the hill. In the end it took 7 people to get him up the hill, they pushed him to the top.
     
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    my a3 dsg is useless in the snow, hence why i'm sat at home oh and also because the roads are blocked ! I know we don't get snow very often but a small amount shouldn't bring the country to a stop.
     
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    its just not worth the potential risk of driving in bad snow/ice. wrecked alloys cost a lot of cash. I remember arriving backwards at a set of traffic lights in my mr2 turbo. lesson learnt!

    its fun though in a wide open space (on priivate land of course!)
     

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